Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Magazine Covers

[LS (lashdeep]

Ed, where in Canada are you from? TDot and MTL are two of my favorite cities...in the world. Your country is beautiful.

Yep, Horton lost it on the QEW near Hamilton...wasted and coked out right? Even Dallara can't design a chassis that will stay on the road for those conditions.

I'm sure you mean the  "Bricklin" and not Brickland.

If you're relying on that memory, you may need to do some more up to date research on the Pantera.

Hahaha...just kidding...sorta.

LS

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From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 11:20:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

Being a Canadian, Pantera is one of the very first automotive names we learn up here, next to Brickland.  Why?  Well, our official national drink, and what the country runs on, is Tim Horton's coffee.  The coffee chain founded by the hockey player of the same name, who lost his life in car crash, driving a Pantera.  The name Pantera is almost as well known as the coffee itself, to anyone who has been drinking it for 25 years or more.

The first Ferrari that got my attention with regards to fit and finish, was the 550.  I was amazed at how well all the panels fit together, and all the trim lined up as it should.  Hard to believe the advances that car made over the model it replaced. 

To be honest, the Pantera never looked exotic to me.  Even when I was a kid, it just didn't have that allure for me.  I liked the Mangusta.  It just had more of that exotic look to my eye.

Ed
911SC

On 21 August 2010 10:03, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Ed, everything was crude back then...even period Ferrari and Lambo had hilarious assembly practices.

As in the 348, a LOT has changed since then. All of the introductory problems are easily sorted and the Dallara chassis is awesome.

They are amazing cars and still one of the best looking designs ever.

http://panteraplace.com/page5.html

Also, some of the most raced, tracked and enjoyed marques out there. There's a huge contingent that frequents the Silver State Classic every year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-d6BedAghE&feature=fvw

LS

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From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>

To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 9:54:06 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

I haven't seen one in years now, but the impression I came away with was, crude, crude, crude.  Then again, no worse than a lot of stuff at that time.  Exotic, well the ZF trans was nice.  Handbuilt, yeah, no one would ever question that.  ;-)

Last time I saw a Pantera, was on the highway.  It was a later model, when I believe they were adding wings and fender extensions, a la countach.  (GTS ?)  The driver was right into it, sporting driving gloves with cutout knuckles and all.  He seemed like a pretty happy camper, and that's what it's all about I guess.

Ed
911SC, with a old pair of driving gloves stuffed in the door pocket too. *blush*

On 20 August 2010 20:40, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

"Sounds a bit classy, but it's still a bottle of table wine. hee hee."

You must be mistaking this for another car Ed.

Handbuilt Italian exotic from Ghia with a Giampaolo Dallara designed chassis a  "table" wine?

IS THIS NOT THE FERRARI LIST?

When did we starting worrying about interior materials or not knowing what a de Tomaso is?

LS

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From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>

To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:59:34 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

It was pretty much a Pantera to the world.  Some liked the way de Tomaso rolled off the tongue, and thought it added a bit of class to the car.  Kinda like calling a bottle of table wine by the grape it's made from.  Sounds a bit classy, but it's still a bottle of table wine. hee hee.

Ed
911SC

On 20 August 2010 14:40, Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

you wrote <<it's *de Tomaso* Pantera >>
Thanks for that - I should have taken the time to find out the true name but
I went with memory and naturally I as wrong ;-)

Yeah, that's one of the best book buys I've made in the past 10 years or
o  - every time I look through it I find new little treasures of art....

Take care -
Larry

"In God We Trust"

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From: "LS" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:16 PM
To: "Larry T" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

> Larry, that 50 Years of Art and the Automobile book is one of my
> favorites...amazing pics and art within.
>
> Oh, and it's *de Tomaso* Pantera ...sold through Lincoln Mercury dealers
> by
> Ford.
>
> Made in Italy...
>
> LS

>
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

> Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 4:37:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers
>

> Hi Ya'll -
>    IMO magazine covers have some of thee greatest automotive art
> published - R&T was mentioned, but Panorama, Forza, Rosso Ferrari, SCI,
> Automobile, 911 & Porsche World, and others.
>
>    I think R&T really  printed some outstanding "artwork".  I bought a
> coffee table book called 50 Years of R&T Art" or something like that - and
> it featured not only covers but some really beautiful inside layouts and
> artwork by artists like Nicholas Watts, Bill Neale, and others.  I wish I
> was better at remembering their names - that one R&T books brings all of
> them together.
>
>    The most memorable R&T cover IMHO was a ('71?) Ford Pantera in front of
> what I believe was an Italian fountain of building front - it had lions
> and
> all kinds of statues in shades of Blue which really complimented the color
> &
> shape of the Pantera.
>
>    I also think the Porsche Factory Posters published over the last 60
> years have entered the realm of artwork.  Valued not just for rarity but
> also for content.
>
>    I wish Enzo had been more public focused and had concentrated on using
> public memorabilia to create market familiarity instead of totally race
> oriented - destroying old race cars was one thing I wish he had not done
> for
> instance, issuing Posters to commemorate wins would have created a lot of
> public interest and support IMHO and given little boys something to tape
> to
> their bedroom walls (well they were available, just not from the factory),
> along with models, books and other stuff to celebrate various wins.
>
>    But that's just me -
>
> Take care -
> LarryT
>
> "In God We Trust"
>
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> From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:55 PM
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

> Subject: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

>
>> Alex - Which cover are you thinking about? Can you describe it?
>>
>> Does anyone know where there are archives of such cover photos?
>>

>> It's interesting how some of those really stick in your head. I was
>> looking at a 993 911 Turbo recently. It was the color I always wanted -
>> Arena Red, mostly because of an Automobile Magazine cover from 1994 that
>> had the car on the front with a splashy headline that read "Sell your
>> soul - Buy this car!" I had that cover on my wall for a long time. I
>> couldn't find it with a web search but would love to see it again.
>>
>> What are some other covers that made impressions on people? I remember a
>> Car and Driver that had a 348 parked nose to nose with a GMC Typhoon
>> that made a lasting impression. What else?
>>

>> -- charles
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexander Ishii [mailto:alexishii [at] mindspring.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:33 AM
>> To: Charles Perry
>> Cc: 'The FerrariList'

>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....
>>
>>
>> Oh, mind you, I don't love the model or anything.  Though I will say
>> that from my limited seat time (one drive), I think performance-wise it
>> will show a 328 a clean pair of heals.
>>
>> Just pointing out that it had some "fun" aspects to it.  I really loved
>> that Autoweek cover...
>>
>>    -- Alex

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