Re: Magazine Covers
From: David (davidtynerroberts.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:48:30 -0700 (PDT)

Rust? In an Italian car? You must be mistaken! J

 


From: Larry T [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 6:40 AM
To: David
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

 

IIRC, the Pantera had a large problem with Rust from the earliest production.  Perhaps that was improved as production continued.....

 

LarryT

 

"In God We Trust"

 

From: E M

Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:54 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

 

I haven't seen one in years now, but the impression I came away with was, crude, crude, crude.  Then again, no worse than a lot of stuff at that time.  Exotic, well the ZF trans was nice.  Handbuilt, yeah, no one would ever question that.  ;-)

Last time I saw a Pantera, was on the highway.  It was a later model, when I believe they were adding wings and fender extensions, a la countach.  (GTS ?)  The driver was right into it, sporting driving gloves with cutout knuckles and all.  He seemed like a pretty happy camper, and that's what it's all about I guess.

Ed
911SC, with a old pair of driving gloves stuffed in the door pocket too. *blush*

On 20 August 2010 20:40, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

"Sounds a bit classy, but it's still a bottle of table wine. hee hee."

You must be mistaking this for another car Ed.

Handbuilt Italian exotic from Ghia with a Giampaolo Dallara designed chassis a  "table" wine?

IS THIS NOT THE FERRARI LIST?

When did we starting worrying about interior materials or not knowing what a de Tomaso is?

LS





From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:59:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

It was pretty much a Pantera to the world.  Some liked the way de Tomaso rolled off the tongue, and thought it added a bit of class to the car.  Kinda like calling a bottle of table wine by the grape it's made from.  Sounds a bit classy, but it's still a bottle of table wine. hee hee.

Ed
911SC

On 20 August 2010 14:40, Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

you wrote <<it's *de Tomaso* Pantera >>
Thanks for that - I should have taken the time to find out the true name but
I went with memory and naturally I as wrong ;-)

Yeah, that's one of the best book buys I've made in the past 10 years or
o  - every time I look through it I find new little treasures of art....

Take care -
Larry

"In God We Trust"

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From: "LS" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:16 PM
To: "Larry T" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

> Larry, that 50 Years of Art and the Automobile book is one of my
> favorites...amazing pics and art within.
>
> Oh, and it's *de Tomaso* Pantera ...sold through Lincoln Mercury dealers
> by
> Ford.
>
> Made in Italy...
>
> LS

>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

> Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 4:37:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers
>

> Hi Ya'll -
>    IMO magazine covers have some of thee greatest automotive art
> published - R&T was mentioned, but Panorama, Forza, Rosso Ferrari, SCI,
> Automobile, 911 & Porsche World, and others.
>
>    I think R&T really  printed some outstanding "artwork".  I bought a
> coffee table book called 50 Years of R&T Art" or something like that - and
> it featured not only covers but some really beautiful inside layouts and
> artwork by artists like Nicholas Watts, Bill Neale, and others.  I wish I
> was better at remembering their names - that one R&T books brings all of
> them together.
>
>    The most memorable R&T cover IMHO was a ('71?) Ford Pantera in front of
> what I believe was an Italian fountain of building front - it had lions
> and
> all kinds of statues in shades of Blue which really complimented the color
> &
> shape of the Pantera.
>
>    I also think the Porsche Factory Posters published over the last 60
> years have entered the realm of artwork.  Valued not just for rarity but
> also for content.
>
>    I wish Enzo had been more public focused and had concentrated on using
> public memorabilia to create market familiarity instead of totally race
> oriented - destroying old race cars was one thing I wish he had not done
> for
> instance, issuing Posters to commemorate wins would have created a lot of
> public interest and support IMHO and given little boys something to tape
> to
> their bedroom walls (well they were available, just not from the factory),
> along with models, books and other stuff to celebrate various wins.
>
>    But that's just me -
>
> Take care -
> LarryT
>
> "In God We Trust"
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:55 PM
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

> Subject: [Ferrari] Magazine Covers

>
>> Alex - Which cover are you thinking about? Can you describe it?
>>
>> Does anyone know where there are archives of such cover photos?
>>

>> It's interesting how some of those really stick in your head. I was
>> looking at a 993 911 Turbo recently. It was the color I always wanted -
>> Arena Red, mostly because of an Automobile Magazine cover from 1994 that
>> had the car on the front with a splashy headline that read "Sell your
>> soul - Buy this car!" I had that cover on my wall for a long time. I
>> couldn't find it with a web search but would love to see it again.
>>
>> What are some other covers that made impressions on people? I remember a
>> Car and Driver that had a 348 parked nose to nose with a GMC Typhoon
>> that made a lasting impression. What else?
>>

>> -- charles
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexander Ishii [mailto:alexishii [at] mindspring.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:33 AM
>> To: Charles Perry
>> Cc: 'The FerrariList'

>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....
>>
>>
>> Oh, mind you, I don't love the model or anything.  Though I will say
>> that from my limited seat time (one drive), I think performance-wise it
>> will show a 328 a clean pair of heals.
>>
>> Just pointing out that it had some "fun" aspects to it.  I really loved
>> that Autoweek cover...
>>
>>    -- Alex

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