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>>Mike notes "In all cases the track corner workers were present with
extinguishers pretty quickly, though some of those brush fires would get pretty
decently sized."
Good point Mike - BUT that said, with the crappy
gas and old fuel lines - there is only a SLIM chance you'll have a rescue on the
highway/freeway as the streams of people watch your car-B-que. Damn few
people rush to aid ANYONE in a car fire.
Terri found that out when our carbed Porsche 912
backfired in a Reno parking lot after a day of auto crossing (tut tut Doug - no
air cleaners replaced) and set the sound deadener on fire. Terri jumped
out and sprayed through the grill which smothered the fire. Close
call.
But the folks in the parking lot? Yep - big
circle 100 yards away.
DOUG
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] fire extinguishers
for in car DE events ??
Hmm
Its been a bit since I did a DE but I recall the
general advice was all race-prepped cars should have an extinguisher, street
cars it was optional. Neither was a requirement unless it was a race
event. If you did have a system there were clear rules on mounting,
size, and accessibility to set off the system.
That said I know
of several instances where cars caught on fire at various DE's.
Typically some oil getting loose on the manifolds, and in all cases it was a
911 variant of some type that ended up with black smoke pouring out of its
rear... RMS failure maybe on some, Turbo failure on a few
definitely... 911's catching fire was always preferable (provided no one
was hurt) to them leaving the oil on half the track though probably not the
owner's favorite way to go. I could see some Ferrari's doing this too
but so few actually show at a DE typically. I don't remember seeing any
other type of car actually catch on fire except a really old 240Z with a Chevy
V8...
Only other fires where brush fires from some cars that OTE'd into
the dry brush grass and stopped, hot exhaust lit the grass... Driving
back to the track is often the best option there :)
In all cases the
track corner workers were present with extinguishers pretty quickly, though
some of those brush fires would get pretty decently sized.
BR,
Mike
On 3/10/11 4:24 PM, E M wrote:
Thanks Larry, Martin, and Fellippe,
I was somewhat
surprised when he mentioned the fire extinguisher being required too.
I haven't been around the club for a bit, but last time, I don't recall any
such requirements for non timed events. I don't even remember helmets
being mandatory.
I'll pass on the link and make sure he's working
with the proper rule book. I'll be sure to mention the Halon
too.
Thanks again everyone.
Ed
911SC
On 10 March 2011 16:02, Larry Bard <larrybard [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
Ed, Your friend's local Porsche club may have special,
additional requirements, but national PCA rules do not require fire
extinguishers. http://www.pca.org/Activities/DriverEducation/MinimumStandards.aspx
The local Porsche club (Riesentoter) whose DE events I regularly
participate in says the following:
"Fire Extinguishers are NOT required, but
if installed, A 2.5 lb. or larger Halon fire extinguisher (Halon
preferred) must be mounted metal-to-metal in your car with proper brackets
(Highly recommended for white run group and
higher.)" Larry
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:45:29 -0500 From: pokiebaron [at] gmail.comSubject: [Ferrari] fire
extinguishers for in car DE events ?? CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.comTo: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
Hi Everyone,
I know this topic came up some
time ago, but I'm not having much luck retrieving the messages I saved
from the thread.
A friend is planning to do some DE events through
the Porsche club. It seems fire extinguishers are now required
grear. I seem to recall that not all extinguishers are created
equal, and there are a few different chemicals used in them, some of which
can do almost as much damage to the car as the fire itself.
Anyway,
if anyone can offer any advise, it would be much appreciated. The
regulations call for a 2.5 lbs bottle, min. The allow for proper a
"metal" mounting bracket on the passenger seat rails.
I
advised my friend to go with this option, as it's easy to get to if
needed. Also, as it's a Boxster, if trouble starts in the engine
bay, there is little chance to access the bay, unless the car is upside
down; so in that event, just concentrate in getting his backside out and
away from the car, and allow the track workers to deal with
it.
Thanks in
advance,
Ed
911SC
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