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From: Larry T (l02turner![]() |
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:20:50 -0800 (PST) |
Hi Gang -
I started having trouble receiving email from the forum on my various email programs. I have TBird, Live Mail (pos), Comcast (my cable ISP) and a special email provider just for the 911 forum.. What a PITA.
So I am asking that anyone needing to contact me to please send a note direct (L02turner [at] comca instead of posting on the forum as I seldom check it. Still don't know what happened on 12/17 but that's when my email changed for the worse. My Yahoo groups was dropped, and I had to start using Comcast to receive email, well, most of it. ;-^
I had hoped T'Bird would fix the problem.but was sadly mistaken. Oh well, keeps me off the streets - yall have a nice weekend -
LarryT
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----- Original Message -----
From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
To: Larry Turner <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:17:27 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] fire extinguishers for in car DE events ??
I'm thinking of installing an extinguisher in my old 911, even though I only use it for road use now. There are no oil or fuel leaks at all, but she is getting to be an older girl now. Better to play it on the safe side.
Ed
911SC
I started having trouble receiving email from the forum on my various email programs. I have TBird, Live Mail (pos), Comcast (my cable ISP) and a special email provider just for the 911 forum.. What a PITA.
So I am asking that anyone needing to contact me to please send a note direct (L02turner [at] comca instead of posting on the forum as I seldom check it. Still don't know what happened on 12/17 but that's when my email changed for the worse. My Yahoo groups was dropped, and I had to start using Comcast to receive email, well, most of it. ;-^
I had hoped T'Bird would fix the problem.but was sadly mistaken. Oh well, keeps me off the streets - yall have a nice weekend -
LarryT
Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits!
----- Original Message -----
From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
To: Larry Turner <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:17:27 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] fire extinguishers for in car DE events ??
I'm thinking of installing an extinguisher in my old 911, even though I only use it for road use now. There are no oil or fuel leaks at all, but she is getting to be an older girl now. Better to play it on the safe side.
Ed
911SC
On 10 March 2011 17:48, Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm
Its been a bit since I did a DE but I recall the general advice was
all race-prepped cars should have an extinguisher, street cars it
was optional. Neither was a requirement unless it was a race
event. If you did have a system there were clear rules on mounting,
size, and accessibility to set off the system.
That said I know of several instances where cars caught on fire at
various DE's. Typically some oil getting loose on the manifolds,
and in all cases it was a 911 variant of some type that ended up
with black smoke pouring out of its rear... RMS failure maybe on
some, Turbo failure on a few definitely... 911's catching fire was
always preferable (provided no one was hurt) to them leaving the oil
on half the track though probably not the owner's favorite way to
go. I could see some Ferrari's doing this too but so few actually
show at a DE typically. I don't remember seeing any other type of
car actually catch on fire except a really old 240Z with a Chevy
V8...
Only other fires where brush fires from some cars that OTE'd into
the dry brush grass and stopped, hot exhaust lit the grass...
Driving back to the track is often the best option there :)
In all cases the track corner workers were present with
extinguishers pretty quickly, though some of those brush fires would
get pretty decently sized.
BR,
Mike
On 3/10/11 4:24 PM, E M wrote:
Thanks Larry, Martin, and Fellippe,
I was somewhat surprised when he mentioned the fire extinguisher
being required too. I haven't been around the club for a bit, but
last time, I don't recall any such requirements for non timed
events. I don't even remember helmets being mandatory.
I'll pass on the link and make sure he's working with the proper
rule book. I'll be sure to mention the Halon too.
Thanks again everyone.
Ed
911SCOn 10 March 2011 16:02, Larry Bard <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:
Ed,
Your friend's local Porsche club may have special,
additional requirements, but national PCA rules do not
require fire extinguishers. http://www.pca.org/Activities/DriverEducation/MinimumStandards.aspx
The local Porsche club (Riesentoter) whose DE events I
regularly participate in says the following:
"Fire Extinguishers are NOT
required, but if installed, A 2.5 lb. or larger Halon fire
extinguisher (Halon preferred) must be mounted
metal-to-metal in your car with proper brackets (Highly
recommended for white run group and higher.)"
Larry
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:45:29 -0500
From: pokiebaron [at] gmail.com
Subject: [Ferrari] fire extinguishers for in car DE events
??
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
Hi Everyone,
I know this topic came up some time ago, but I'm not
having much luck retrieving the messages I saved from
the thread.
A friend is planning to do some DE events through the
Porsche club. It seems fire extinguishers are now
required grear. I seem to recall that not all
extinguishers are created equal, and there are a few
different chemicals used in them, some of which can do
almost as much damage to the car as the fire itself.
Anyway, if anyone can offer any advise, it would be much
appreciated. The regulations call for a 2.5 lbs bottle,
min. The allow for proper a "metal" mounting bracket on
the passenger seat rails.
I advised my friend to go with this option, as it's easy
to get to if needed. Also, as it's a Boxster, if
trouble starts in the engine bay, there is little chance
to access the bay, unless the car is upside down; so in
that event, just concentrate in getting his backside out
and away from the car, and allow the track workers to
deal with it.
Thanks in advance,
Ed
911SC
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- Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ??, (continued)
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Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ?? E M, March 10 2011
- Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ?? Mike Fleischer, March 10 2011
- Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ?? Doug and Terri Anderson, March 10 2011
- Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ?? E M, March 10 2011
- My Presence on the Ferrari List Larry T, March 11 2011
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Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ?? E M, March 10 2011
- Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ?? E M, March 15 2011
- Re: fire extinguishers for in car DE events ?? Doug and Terri Anderson, March 15 2011
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