My Presence on the Ferrari List
From: Larry T (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:20:50 -0800 (PST)
Hi Gang -
I started having trouble receiving email from the forum on my various email programs.  I have TBird, Live Mail (pos), Comcast (my cable ISP) and a special email provider just for the 911 forum..  What a PITA. 

So I am asking that anyone needing to contact me to please send a note direct (L02turner [at] comca instead of posting on the forum as I seldom check it.    Still don't know  what happened on 12/17 but that's when my email changed for the worse.  My Yahoo groups was dropped, and I had to start using Comcast to receive email, well, most of it.  ;-^

I had hoped T'Bird would fix the problem.but was sadly mistaken.  Oh well, keeps me off the streets - yall have a nice weekend -

LarryT

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----- Original Message -----
From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
To: Larry Turner <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:17:27 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] fire extinguishers for in car DE events ??

I'm thinking of installing an extinguisher in my old 911, even though I only use it for road use now.  There are no oil or fuel leaks at all, but she is getting to be an older girl now.  Better to play it on the safe side.

Ed
911SC

On 10 March 2011 17:48, Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com> wrote:

    Hmm


    Its been a bit since I did a DE but I recall the general advice was
    all race-prepped cars should have an extinguisher, street cars it
    was optional.  Neither was a requirement unless it was a race
    event.  If you did have a system there were clear rules on mounting,
    size, and accessibility to set off the system. 


    That said I know of several instances where cars caught on fire at
    various DE's.  Typically some oil getting loose on the manifolds,
    and in all cases it was a 911 variant of some type that ended up
    with black smoke pouring out of its rear...  RMS failure maybe on
    some, Turbo failure on a few definitely...  911's catching fire was
    always preferable (provided no one was hurt) to them leaving the oil
    on half the track though probably not the owner's favorite way to
    go.  I could see some Ferrari's doing this too but so few actually
    show at a DE typically.  I don't remember seeing any other type of
    car actually catch on fire except a really old 240Z with a Chevy
    V8...


    Only other fires where brush fires from some cars that OTE'd into
    the dry brush grass and stopped, hot exhaust lit the grass... 
    Driving back to the track is often the best option there :)


    In all cases the track corner workers were present with
    extinguishers pretty quickly, though some of those brush fires would
    get pretty decently sized.


    BR,

    Mike




    On 3/10/11 4:24 PM, E M wrote:
    
Thanks Larry, Martin, and Fellippe,


      I was somewhat surprised when he mentioned the fire extinguisher
      being required too.  I haven't been around the club for a bit, but
      last time, I don't recall any such requirements for non timed
      events.  I don't even remember helmets being mandatory.


      I'll pass on the link and make sure he's working with the proper
      rule book. I'll be sure to mention the Halon too.


      Thanks again everyone.


      Ed

      911SC

On 10 March 2011 16:02, Larry Bard <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>
        wrote:

            Ed,

             

            Your friend's local Porsche club may have special,
            additional requirements, but national PCA rules do not
            require fire extinguishers. http://www.pca.org/Activities/DriverEducation/MinimumStandards.aspx  
            The local Porsche club (Riesentoter) whose DE events I
            regularly participate in says the following:

             

"Fire Extinguishers are NOT
              required, but if installed, A 2.5 lb. or larger Halon fire
              extinguisher (Halon preferred) must be mounted
              metal-to-metal in your car with proper brackets (Highly
              recommended for white run group and higher.)"


             

            Larry

             


            Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:45:29 -0500

            From: pokiebaron [at] gmail.com

            Subject: [Ferrari] fire extinguishers for in car DE events
            ??

            CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com

            To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com



                Hi Everyone,


                I know this topic came up some time ago, but I'm not
                having much luck retrieving the messages I saved from
                the thread.


                A friend is planning to do some DE events through the
                Porsche club.  It seems fire extinguishers are now
                required grear.  I seem to recall that not all
                extinguishers are created equal, and there are a few
                different chemicals used in them, some of which can do
                almost as much damage to the car as the fire itself.


                Anyway, if anyone can offer any advise, it would be much
                appreciated.  The regulations call for a 2.5 lbs bottle,
                min.  The allow for proper a "metal" mounting bracket on
                the passenger seat rails. 


                I advised my friend to go with this option, as it's easy
                to get to if needed.  Also, as it's a Boxster, if
                trouble starts in the engine bay, there is little chance
                to access the bay, unless the car is upside down; so in
                that event, just concentrate in getting his backside out
                and away from the car, and allow the track workers to
                deal with it.


                Thanks in advance,


                Ed

                911SC


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