Re: Beating the system....
From: Britt2Asa (Britt2Asaaol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:26:45 -0800 (PST)
 
I have friends here in the FOC that do this with the 458. One of the guys in my area group took delivery of a  458 last September and another this August with a Spider on the way. Sold the first car for 25k profit. Plans to flip the second when the Spider comes in.
 
I also know a guy well who did this with the 430 and lost his ass on the car because the demand wasn't there.
 
So, it works if the car is HOT but if it isn't you are tanked. Thing is, these guys ordered the cars  3 years ago and got the first ones, they didn't even know what it would look like when they paid the deposit. If Ferrari comes out with a 458 than Cha ching! If its a minger than you lose.
 
that's the view in the UK anyway.....
 
Britt
 
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In a message dated 08/11/2011 01:31:37 GMT Standard Time, fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com writes:
Clyde's comments on Ferrari pricing eventually tanking, illustrates what happens when you buy early to mid cycle, hold onto a car forever and then have little equity to show for it down the road.

Apparently there are two ways to beat this system:

a) Buy fully depreciated cars

This one is obvious.

One that is not so obvious is:

b) Buy brand new and flip every 1.5-2 years:

The caveat though is you have to have an in to buy at MSRP. The resale market will reimburse your "depreciation" when you're ready to move it.

From what I see, if you're one of the esteemed who can do so, then you can essentially drive a new F every few years for very little.

Given the massive depreciation on new Ferraris, Lambos, it's hard to rationalize a brand new purchase unless you are making mega money -- I'd estimate a true Ferrari/Lamborghini "client" is making at least $2-3 million a year if not more. Whatever income/wealth point allows you to flush $200k every few years without blinking an eye....that's the sweet spot for buying brand new, for *1* car, LOL.

But this flipping thing is interesting. You may have to subsidize the dealer on your first purchase, but afterwards you're good to go the rest of the way. You flip "new s***", and on the side you buy and own the legends that are more or less depreciated and worth keeping......Flat 12s, Diablos, Esprits, the right 911s, reasonable muscle cars, etc.

What do you guys think? I believe this is happening, unless certain people are lying. ;-)

FG




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