Ferrari Mailing List: Carrol remembered

[dale sailors (sailorsdaleedward]

Hello

Aerodynamics is or still can be a black art.

I see hints the ENZO has transits of instability

at certain speeds and possibly crosswind conditions?

Lots of other cars and bikes do too. On a bike if

you vary your riding position "cafe racer" style

you can see big effects from slight frontal area

changes. Even helmet streanlining can be effective.

Look at all the aero tricks on the new 458 and 599GTO

etc. Every little thing helps or hurts? Years ago I

played around with a VW Type 181 Thing and folding

the windshield, removing some or all the doors,

removing the folded top, etc all effected how that

miserably slow car handled on winding roads as well

as straight far beyond the weight reductions.

Regards

Dale

PS Never met Carrol but wished I had

   I was in the F Camp so never looked hard at the

Cobras, FT40s, Mustangs, etc. He was a strong

personality and drove a lot of equipment well.

I can still remember seeing Cobra big blocks

around the Courtland Alabama SCCA races way back.

They really projected power. Still a older British

design not too attractive with a backyard hotrod

swap. In the SE USA back then there were lots of

those. Overheated as they all trend to do.

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Shelby 3 Hour Tribute this Sunday on Velocity Channel
      (Larry T)


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Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 08:41:30 -0400
From: Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Shelby 3 Hour Tribute this Sunday on Velocity
    Channel
To: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
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I  remember reading about that Swiss engineer who was the first to rig a
high wing on his Porsche 550 Spyder.  He was protested (by Mercedes
IIRC) and the wing was removed.  I believe he ran a lap or 2 of practice
with the wing in place and posted times 15+ seconds faster than the 1st
place drivers.  No wonder that wanted him and his flippin' wing banned!
;-)  I guess that 1955 wing ban prevented the wing tragedies that F1
faced in the early 70's when the F1 teams sprouted wings of all sorts -
wings with flimsy supports that ultimately caused many accidents.

Fun N Games :-)
LarryT

On 5/23/2012 2:38 PM, Doug and Terri Anderson wrote:
>
> >> Larry notes "Now THERE"S a engineer! [Jim Hall] His Chaparrals were
> world class.    Very much ahead of their time --
>
> Picture this -- 1966, Riverside International Raceway, the Chaparral
> 2E with huge movable wings one on the back and one in the nose, comes
> off a win at Laguna Seca and Times GP Friday practice is in full
> swing.  Up comes a news man, cameras dripping off him (remember those
> days?) and snarls asking Hall -- what good are those things, pointing
> to the wing, for your car?  Hall stands up, drawls in a matter of fact
> Texas response -- "Ever stick your head out of a car window at a 100 mph?"
>
> I rest my case.
>
> DOUG
>
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