Re: Was this guy violating the exotic car code of conduct?
From: Scott Saidel (Ferrarisimocomcast.net)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:17:45 -0700 (PDT)
Adam:

At :04 he gets into the car - BECAUSE he sees the officer writing the ticket.

At :18 he starts rolling INTO the police officer who is standing still

At :25 the officer tells him to stop.

By :30 the car is already ON the officer's foot

Frankly, I don't care how the OFFICER acted.  He was doing he job.  Asshat in the Ferrari decided to be, well, an Asshat.

He had a car with no registration sticker, no front plate, and was parked illegally.  He saw the officer writing the ticket, he saw the officer move in front of the car, he decided he would try to bully his way past an officer that was doing his duty - and then hit the officer with his car and then ran over the officer's foot.

And you take issue with the police officer? 


Sorry man, everyone here knows I'll go to the mat to back up a friend - but on this one you are wrong.  Asshat got the throw down he deserved.  

He did not need to "anticipate" the officer doing anything.  He should have just stayed still and taken the ticket that he DESERVED. 

Maybe next time he'll just take the parking ticket????

Scottie


On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:

If you think the cop behaved appropriately, fine, I don't share your opinion.

At the 0:30 mark in the video, there is a moment when the car is stationary and the cop plays out his pantomime, having created the accident.  Whether the driver could possibly see or anticipate the cop using his foot to stop a 3000lb, 560 horsepower car with a creep-ahead dual clutch transmission and zero forward visibility inside 50 metres, is moot, but the cop put his foot in front a moving tire and that's shown in the video.

This reminds me of Eddie Murphy asking, if he got thrown out of a moving car, would he be charged with jaywalking.


The cops will trump up a laundry list of charges including assault with a deadly weapon.  I'm equally sure the money that lets that kid drive a 458 will tug on the donations leash that controls the NYPD and it will go away.  Except for normal people who have to go on living there.


Adam


On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Scott Saidel <ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net> wrote:
Adam:

Pretty clear that the car ran over his foot.

You can see him wince and start screaming (and punch the car window) as it happens.

At that point, actually at the point where the car moved forward and made contact with the officer's leg - it was assault.  

The guy better take the plea - whatever they offer.

Scottie

On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Perhaps the cop was hobbling.  Perhaps he was feigning injury to excuse his behavior.  It's moot.  Even if his foot was severed at the ankle and he acted out the Black Knight "flesh wound" scene from Monty Python, his injury was self-inflicted.


Hit by the car?  You mean he leaned against the mirror as the driver inched the car forward?

Adam


On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Steven Noble <snoble [at] sonn.com> wrote:
I think you are over-reacting.  You can see the cop moves in front of the car to block the guy from leaving.  The guy had two choices, wait until the cop moved, or try to drive through the cop.  He tried to drive through the cop.  I don't think the cop expected the guy to actually drive through him.

You see in the video the cop is hobbling, I don't think anyone in their right mind would purposely get their foot run over (and $$/workers comp is not in their right mind), if the cop was looking for an excuse he was already hit by the car before his foot was run over.

Whether or not the cop was right to block the driver, the driver had no right to drive into the cop, no more then he would have the right to drive into a non-cop.  It's vehicular assault (IANAL) from the drivers side and possibly illegal detention (IANAL) from the cops side.. but I assume the cop had the right to detain him.

On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So the cop puts his foot under the front tire after the vehicle is moving and uses this lie as the excuse to assault the person in the car.  Why can't the cop just write up the ticket and add the offense of leaving and disobeying the instructions to wait?  Is there even a law that empowers the cop to compel the driver to wait for the paperwork?  Is there a law that empowers the cop to escalate a parking ticket into a violent assault?
>
> The dim wit kid driving the status symbol does not have my sympathy -- he was wrong to park illegally, wrong to not behave with simple courtesy and he should have just waited politely to take the ticket and thank the cop for doing a useful job of enforcing the law.  But kids have no brains -- biologically they don't have a fully developed prefrontal cortex (reasoning, consequences, accountability) until the human body is 22 to 25 years old.  And he's a young male showing off to a female.  Another recipe for disaster when mixed with the catalyst of a car ... : )
>
> It's common knowledge that US police are violent thugs ready to escalate any confrontation to life and death.  So the kid was risking his life or at least a face full of mace and a taser to the nuts.  Now he faces months of time wasted in his defense, in avoiding a felony conviction, in fighting the establishment that protects the police from their own criminality.  What's the point?
>
> The real tragedy here is the cop with the predilection to create confrontation, to force the issue, to swing into violent assault -- the situation is patently a matter of an ass clown kid with a rich family, does the cop really "protect and serve" by assaulting this kid over a parking ticket?


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