Ferrari Mailing List: Re: let the debate begin

[Peter Pless (ferrarilist]

Learn to read.

 

From: Rick Moseley [mailto:ramosel [at] pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, 28 December 2012 2:26 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] let the debate begin

 

You've had too much kool-ade...  

So these concerns are only valid IF children die??  So one error invalidates the rest of the information?  I THINK not.   That's throwing out the baby with the bath water.  

 

My bottom line is this. If you don't like guns, by all means, don't own one. And, no one should make you own one.    But if you do like, own, use guns and can do so responsibly then NO ONE (rhetorical) should impose their beliefs on you...   Life is about choices and we should be free to choose.    (Yes, I am one of those anachronisms who is pro gun but not pro life... That's a whole 'nother debate (that frankly I think men should be made to stay out of))

 

The problem today is that soooo many preach tolerance, but only practice it as long as others see things their way. 

 

Rick

 

On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:45 PM, "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:

Didnât we already determine that no one died in China? Makes a mockery of the rest of the email if itâs full of misinformation.

 

 

 

From: Larry T [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012 12:40 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] let the debate begin

 

ditto.  Very goo points!

BTW, More people are killed with fists, feet, knives and blunt objects By Far than those who are killed with guns.   The same day as the Ct tragedy a nut in China (of all places) killed 22 kids in a school there - with a Knife!

Nuts who want to kill will find a way.  I glad that guy in Ct didn't get on the internet and find the recipe for building a fertilizer bomb - he could have leveled the school!   

re :So called "Assault Weapons" - I assume you're referring to AR15s, AK47s and the like?  other than the caliber there's little technical difference between them and the 12 ga. duck gun my grand dad passed down to me.  There's no reason to ban any of them.   The AR15 in all of its varieties are the most popular target rifle in the US.  It is also used widely as a defensive gun. 

BTW, there was no change in the crime rate that can be attributed to the AW Ban that was in place during the clinton years.  It's a "feel Good" law - people like to do something that makes them feel good when something bad happens - there are in excess of 22000 laws regulating guns in the US - does ANYONE thing another law will prevent a crazy person from stealing a gun and killing people with it?   We'll never know what was going through the mind of the nut in Ct who shot 6 year old kids and it's impossible for normal people (being a relative term) to comprehend what drove him to do something so terrible.  But it has been proven time and again (and again and again) that gun laws affect the actions of law abiding people - not the ones who are going to use a gun illegally in the 1st place.  So you accomplish nothing.

How do you get the criminals guns away from them?  You can't even ask them if they have one because they would incriminate themselves which is illegal for them to do - quite a system we have huh?

Going after guns will do nothing to stop these tragedies.  The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun - not necessarily a police officer - Mayor Bloomburg of NYC likes to say he only wants his NYC PD officers who are trained to use guns to have them in NY - yet he never mentions the recent comedy of errors when officers were called to stop another nut with a gun (who didn't shoot anyone IIRC) and when the cops arrived them fired nearly 100 rounds and injured more than a dozen bystanders!  The "Trained" police we hear about are not that highly trained.

On 12/22/2012 5:19 PM, Rick Moseley wrote:

I have no problems with any weapons.  I have a problem with idiots owning them.   Now how do we keep psychos from getting them.  And no, I don't think taking them away from everyone is an acceptable answer. 

 

Rick

 

On Dec 22, 2012, at 1:58 PM, "cjromero" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

Ok so who on the list still thinks we need to have assault weapons?

And for those who hunt can you hunt at night?

 

Standby I am going BURNERS ANGELS 50!!

 

Clyde Romero

 

just the right amount of wrong!

 

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