Ferrari Mailing List: Re: CAR PRICES AND RESTORATION

[Adam Green (FlatCrank]

"There"?

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM, cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

Go to autiotrader.com

Type in 575

There all over the place

 

Clyde

 

 

From: Doug and Terri Anderson [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:14 PM
To: 'cjromero'
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] CAR PRICES AND RESTORATION

 

Ah ah ah – you Clyde I don’t worry about. 

 

You’ll buy one of these beauties for 60,000 and most likely your only after purchase purchase will be for the second full tank of gas.  (You will have successfully negotiated for an of the lot full tank.)

 

The message was for the star struck first timers scanning the papers, magazines, and internet.  They have a wad of cash for the full purchase or at least (horrors) enough for a down payment and expect their next big outlay will be for the annual DMV payment or maybe a set of tires (at 6 to 10,000 a set and most likely for our star struck Newbie – 4 to 5,000 miles).  Windows stop working, dash rolls up, on the 550 engine mounts disappear, the exhaust pipes disintegrate, and three CPU’s later in ADDITION to their first set of front wheels getting their Secord or third tank of gas banging into a gas station over the gutter offset and a set of tires.  Etc etc etc & etc.

 

I rest my case.

 

Onward

 

DOUG

 

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From: cjromero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:09 AM
To: Doug and Terri Anderson
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CAR PRICES AND RESTORATION

 

Gee I don't see that in the car about it being unreliable 

The basics are there I mean my 512 tr has never left me anywhere in 20 yrs and over 97K. 

I will be the acid case them because I plan to buy one and drive the paint off it! 

 

Clyde 

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On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:35 PM, "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

Hmmmm – a fair entry price - - for the first round.

 

BUT, that said, let it NEVER be said if a body has only $60 to $65K in their piggy bank they should rush out and ‘invest’ in a used 550/575.  Ho hah alimony breath – you better have another piggy bank with at least 60 to 65k to pay for your first year up keep and differed maintenance.

 

Oh yeah – that and a Premier AAA card that provides oodles of mileage flat bed towing.  But after that - - - you will have a pretty neat touring car and you’ll never be bothered by the hoi poli ogling your ‘Ferrari” cause it don’t look like a Ferrari.  Ahhhhhh, nothing like a peaceful drive.

 

DOUG

 

 

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From: cjromero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:49 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CAR PRICES AND RESTORATION

 

The 550/575 are already there 

Pay no more than $60 k 

That's the wholesale on the car

You can even see the ruling class on the superamerica getting religion 

There are 9 of then for sale now in the US 

Can you imagine having paid $500k for a car and cannot get even a paltry $200 K for it now

Talk about Ferrari hype

 

Clyde 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I have to say the 599 is starting to get appealing.  It's when a car reaches the "can't give 'em away" that I start to take interest. Same with the 575, same with the F40 for that matter.

I'm told it's not all that challenging to turn a humble 599 Berli into something quicker than a 599 GTO (a personal favorite and veritable oasis in the desert of Ferraris in the last so many years ... really back to the '05 Scuderia to find something else on my radar.)

 

ps.  The Guisness Book people are trying to reach you to deliver your award for "most sweeping generalizations" re. FML.

Adam

 

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:46 PM, cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

Phil 

You know not one car has ever sold at the FML Asking price!

Ever ! 

That's like a guy asking a whore what's the asking price is on leave in the Philippines!

The only thing the FML is good for is locating cars !

And gouging insurance companies after some idiot wrecks and totals his Ferrari and truth be known if the insurance companies did due diligence they wouldn't pay out no where near the inflated FML prices for wrecks

 

If the dealers and owners were truthful about there purchases the market would be a better place

 

But alas Ferrari dealers are like rice salesmen on the North Korean Border! 

 

The only way to find out what a Ferrari is worth used from a dealer is to try to sell a similar model to a dealer and see what he will give you for it and that's Gospel!  

 

Case in point look at what 599 are bringing and California's for that matter 

You can't give them away 

 

By the way my friends 512tr is on FML it's a steal 

Clyde 

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On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Phil <philville [at] windstream.net> wrote:

Gee ClYdE I bet you do not agree with the FML,

It serves a purpose, gives us all a yardstick.

Have you gone to: www.radnorconcours.org

Recently?

On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:57 PM, cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

I am with you Eric

The latest baby shit yellow rag aka FML

Even has prices in the dumpster 

612/California's/ and the 599 are all looking like aBMW 7 series 

 

Clyde 

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On Apr 10, 2013, at 10:54 AM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Burned SV will be whole and new once again...those things are big bucks and even a top shelf resto won't come anywhere near that price.

It is very sad watching it happen though.

 

 

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From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CAR PRICES AND RESTORATION

 

I don't see much of a reason to rebuild a 458 when the car is still in production.  I expect (and hope), that the remains are parted to at least keep most of the fleet still going.  As for the overall prices, don't necessarily think that Ferraris have all of a sudden gone through the roof in value, more that a dollar just doesn't go as far as it did five years ago.  Amazing what happens when the printing presses start running at the rev limiter...

 

Erik

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Scott Saidel <Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net> wrote:

Dale:

 

Burned Lambo is a late Miura SV.  CAn and most definitely will be rebuilt.  Current values on SVs are running close to $1M.  Even if you had to rebuild from the frame rails up, it would be worth doing.

 

Scottie

 

On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:13 PM, dale sailors <sailorsdaleedward [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hello,

       As we discuss possible rises in sales prices for the F40, F50, etc.,

did anyone notice the yahoo news video of the lambo miura sv burning

in the UK? Given the obvious serious damage, do you think that vehicle

could be restored with any hope of ever coming out ahead? I understand

a number of F458s burned too. Were any restored? What is Ferrari's Policy

or attitude on that? I understand several ENZOs have been extensively rebuilt.

      Given the common China or Japan attitude about not fixing damaged items,

 will we see a parade of damaged units coming west for restoration and new owners?

      Regards

      Dale

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