Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 82, Issue 41

I rebuilt the Cam gears steering rack in my 79 308 with 70k.  The rack is a 
sturdy design except for the passenger side bushing which takes a lot side load 
and eventually disentigrates and you end up with 1/8 inch play at the tie rod 
which makes for very sloppy steering.  Running wider tires hastens the wear. 
After removing the bushing steel casing, I had a simple bushing made from 
sintered bonze bushing stock and pressed it in.  The right bushing dimensions 
are 1.202 OD  .842  I D   .900 length.
Works great and should last longer than the plastic bushing.
Tom Guadagni
79 308
70 TA bigbird
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Subject: Ferrari Digest, Vol 82, Issue 41
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 08:24:13 -0700

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   1. Re: Rebuilding Steering Rack (cjromero)
   2. Re: Rebuilding Steering Rack (Peter Pless)
   3. Re: Dale Sailors RIP (Hunter N. Schultz)
   4. Re: Rebuilding Steering Rack (LS)
   5. Re: Rebuilding Steering Rack (Fellippe Galletta)
   6. Re: Rebuilding Steering Rack (LS)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 06:40:05 -0400
From: cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack
To: "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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If the boot is the problem you can try to find a Japanese half shaft boot 
that's close that might work 
And you say the steering is recirculating ball not rack and pinion?
Hmm 

Clyde

Sent from my iPhone

On May 9, 2013, at 11:58 PM, "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Friends,
> 
> My GT4 steering rack is leaking and I will remove it to rebuild but hoping 
> some of you may have an idea about were to find some of the parts. I know it 
> is a cam gear box and some of the parts can be replaced with Pantera parts 
> but I have been told the boots do not fit and the plastic bushing is 
> unobtainable?
> Hoping for some advice or info
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> Robert W. Garven Jr.
> rgarven [at] gmail.com
> 
> 
>  "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and 
> for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo 
> Ferrari
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 21:12:25 +1000
From: "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack
To: "'cjromero'" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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These are pretty inexpensive.

http://www.superformance.co.uk/a-308/steering.htm

From: cjromero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 8:40 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack

If the boot is the problem you can try to find a Japanese half shaft boot 
that's close that might work 

And you say the steering is recirculating ball not rack and pinion?

Hmm 

Clyde

Sent from my iPhone

On May 9, 2013, at 11:58 PM, "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com> 
wrote:

Friends,

My GT4 steering rack is leaking and I will remove it to rebuild but hoping some 
of you may have an idea about were to find some of the parts. I know it is a 
cam gear box and some of the parts can be replaced with Pantera parts but I 
have been told the boots do not fit and the plastic bushing is unobtainable?

Hoping for some advice or info

Thanks

Rob

Robert W. Garven Jr.

rgarven [at] gmail.com

 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for 
most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 08:20:10 -0500
From: "Hunter N. Schultz" <hns [at] biosafepanama.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Dale Sailors RIP
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Sad to hear. Prayers to his family.

I enjoyed his insights on Ferraris and his observations on China.

On 05/09/2013 03:39 p.m., Larry T wrote:
> I am sorry to inform you that my business partner and an occasional 
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> In Law are also Houston residents.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:39:49 -0400
From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack
To: Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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What does the faster steering rack feel like at higher speeds?

I always thought the 308 steering felt perfect at 100+ mph.

LS

On May 10, 2013, at 7:12, "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:

> These are pretty inexpensive.
>  
> http://www.superformance.co.uk/a-308/steering.htm
>  
>  
>  
> From: cjromero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 8:40 PM
> To: Peter Pless
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack
>  
> If the boot is the problem you can try to find a Japanese half shaft boot 
> that's close that might work 
> And you say the steering is recirculating ball not rack and pinion?
> Hmm 
>  
> Clyde
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 9, 2013, at 11:58 PM, "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Friends,
>  
> My GT4 steering rack is leaking and I will remove it to rebuild but hoping 
> some of you may have an idea about were to find some of the parts. I know it 
> is a cam gear box and some of the parts can be replaced with Pantera parts 
> but I have been told the boots do not fit and the plastic bushing is 
> unobtainable?
> Hoping for some advice or info
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Rob
>  
>  
> Robert W. Garven Jr.
> rgarven [at] gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and 
> for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo 
> Ferrari
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:44:34 -0400
From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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I'm curious too.

Reason to lean towards a faster rack is that the 308 is a smaller/sportier
car compared to say a TR/Boxer type where the slower steering for high
speed assault seems like a better match.

Also, I wonder how much of steering rack speed is liability vs. getting the
feel right. Most street cars have more understeer and slower steering than
needs to be I think.

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:39 AM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> What does the faster steering rack feel like at higher speeds?
>
> I always thought the 308 steering felt perfect at 100+ mph.
>
> LS
>
> On May 10, 2013, at 7:12, "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:
>
> These are pretty inexpensive.****
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.superformance.co.uk/a-308/steering.htm****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* cjromero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net<clyderomerof4 [at] 
> bellsouth.net>]
>
> *Sent:* Friday, 10 May 2013 8:40 PM
> *To:* Peter Pless
> *Cc:* The FerrariList
> *Subject:* Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack****
>
> ** **
>
> If the boot is the problem you can try to find a Japanese half shaft boot
> that's close that might work ****
>
> And you say the steering is recirculating ball not rack and pinion?****
>
> Hmm ****
>
> ** **
>
> Clyde
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
>
>
> On May 9, 2013, at 11:58 PM, "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Friends,****
>
> ** **
>
> My GT4 steering rack is leaking and I will remove it to rebuild but hoping
> some of you may have an idea about were to find some of the parts. I know
> it is a cam gear box and some of the parts can be replaced with Pantera
> parts but I have been told the boots do not fit and the plastic bushing is
> unobtainable?****
>
> Hoping for some advice or info****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks****
>
> ** **
>
> Rob****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Robert W. Garven Jr.****
>
> rgarven [at] gmail.com****
>
>
>
> ****
>
>
>
> ****
>
>  "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle
> and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few."
> Enzo Ferrari****
>
>
>
> ****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
>
>
>
> ****
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 08:24:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack
To: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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An easier/cheaper experiment is to install a smaller diameter steering wheel.

Still curious as to how it would feel since stability and sensitivity on my '76 
(with the OEM bare aluminum spoke Momo) felt slow at regular speeds (below 
80mph) but excellent above.

LS

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 From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> 
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack

I'm curious too.

Reason to lean towards a faster rack is that the 308 is a smaller/sportier car 
compared to say a TR/Boxer type where the slower steering for high speed 
assault seems like a better match.

Also, I wonder how much of steering rack speed is liability vs. getting the 
feel right. Most street cars have more understeer and slower steering than 
needs to be I think. 

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:39 AM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

What does the faster steering rack feel like at higher speeds?
>
>
>I always thought the 308 steering felt perfect at 100+ mph.
>
>
>LS
>
>On May 10, 2013, at 7:12, "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>These are pretty inexpensive.
>>?
>>http://www.superformance.co.uk/a-308/steering.htm
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>From:cjromero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net] 
>>Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 8:40 PM
>>To: Peter Pless
>>Cc: The FerrariList
>>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Rebuilding Steering Rack
>>?
>>If the boot is the problem you can try to find a Japanese half shaft boot 
>>that's close that might work?
>>And you say the steering is recirculating ball not rack and pinion?
>>Hmm?
>>?
>>Clyde
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>On May 9, 2013, at 11:58 PM, "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com> 
>>wrote:
>>Friends,
>>>?
>>>My GT4 steering rack is leaking and I will remove it to rebuild but hoping 
>>>some of you may have an idea about were to find some of the parts. I know it 
>>>is a cam gear box and some of the parts can be replaced with Pantera parts 
>>>but I have been told the boots do not fit and the plastic bushing is 
>>>unobtainable?
>>>Hoping for some advice or info
>>>?
>>>Thanks
>>>?
>>>Rob
>>>?
>>>?
>>>Robert W. Garven Jr.
>>>rgarven [at] gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>?"The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and 
>>>for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo 
>>>Ferrari
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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