Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fun Semi Daily Driver?

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

There is more space in the Fiat than my trunk in the 308...

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On Jan 3, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Stephen Sherman <stephensherman44 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Come on guys, where is the loyalty, Fiat Abarth ( I admit it does not have trunk space, but it great engine sound) with the right chip 140.  Or import a 695 Tribute to Ferrari.

Like Leno says 'it is more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow'.

Stephen 

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Speaking with Porsche techs on the Cayenne since day 1, circa 2003, the Cayenne has been a reliable beast on statistics, but surely a howling nightmare if you got a bad one ... and there are many bad ones out there, but still not the "road kill" (roadside service tow-in's) of other brands (eg. Mercedes until they did a page one rewrite on their design and quality.)  

For sure, a "CPO" or aftermarket bumper-ta-bumper warranty insurance product is mandatory.  I had an '05 Turbo S (525hp) and it cost around $100K in maintenance over the couple of years I persevered with it.  All warranty stuff, but the number of "holy mackerel" issues with component failure and the cost of the components and astronomical labor hours on the then flagship was just eye-watering.  eg.  step one for all of the many computer failures was to remove the front seat (which weighs about 150lb and is about the same size as the door opening.)  So you're 1hr "in" and 1hr "out" before you can even begin to work on electronic gremlins.  My car was initially troubled by "bus" errors and later injector failures and some recall items, but once it was sorted, it was reliable though it was always temperamental about really delivering all those horses -- it was only once I had driven it when it was on tune that I finally discovered and realized how far down on power it had been for months of "CEL" issues when the engine was in virtual "limp home" and delivering "only" about 400hp 400lbft.

I sold it because it was all too often not quite running on tune or had some niggling problem.  And I was sick of the sub 10mpg resulting from using the horsepower, but hell, it was three tons of lightning and could shut down anything short of a high end performance car.  It was as quick around Laguna Seca on a damp day as the GT3 it had towed there for the weekend. : ) 

Adam

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

That Cayenne is a Maintenace HOG

Which keeps Porsche Dealers in business

Great car until the ass falls out it at 125k 

Please already!

That's why it's resale value is where it is and on top if that BUTT UGly!

And then again it's a Porsche 

Designed by Nazis 

Clyde Romero

In Victory you deserve Champagne

In Defeat You Need It!

On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:08 AM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

What we got â a second generation (MY 2010 +) Porsche Cayenne V6.  This one has more room in the passenger compartment.

 

Get one that has had the drive line replaced or work out a deal splitting the $1000 plus bill thatâll hit you at about 125,000 miles.

 

GREAT car otherwise.

 

DOUG

 

From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:30 PM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Fun Semi Daily Driver?

 

 

 What would you guys get?

The wife needs something somewhat interesting for three days a week.

1. $40-45k
    1a. At least mid 20s MPG Hwy
    1b. Low Maintenance and Zero Repairs
    1c. 4 seats and a decent trunk
2. High Performance
3. Manual trans
4. Great engine sound
5. Interesting...

LS

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