Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Partial FC: Commercial A/C refrigerant

[Larry Bard (larrybard]

It's Fluorinert.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorinert

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From: dnt [at] dock.net
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:47:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Partial FC: Commercial A/C refrigerant
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com

Must have been a plumbers nightmare not to mention cabinet security.  Never thot much about it as any computer mainframe I saw was air cooled.  Flourinert – sounds dangerous - ?

DOUG

 

 

From: Rick Moseley [mailto:ramosel [at] pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:05 AM
To: Doug & Terri
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Partial FC: Commercial A/C refrigerant

 

Nope, its Flourinert  (sp?)

 

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From: Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: 'Rick Moseley' <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Partial FC: Commercial A/C refrigerant

 

Rick notes – “I was a data center IT guy so keeping crap cool was a big thing.”

 

Didn’t (does) the CRAY supercomputer use liquid nitrogen to bathe their components in?

 

DOUG

 

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Rick Moseley
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:17 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Partial FC: Commercial A/C refrigerant

 

Actually there is such a thing as commercial refrigerant...  many of them.  I don't know that you'd be able to run any in a car but commercial applications I know of besides R134a.

R744

R290

HFO

R410A

R404A

R407A

R11

R22

R114

and of course the ammonia derivatives.

 

I was a data center IT guy so keeping crap cool was a big thing.   Not sure which of these get used where or how, but they are out there.  Some of our centrifugal compressors had 6ft diameter impellers and ran on direct 4160volt feeds from the power company.  I think that would be considered commercial.

 

Rick

 

 

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From: Martin Stark <mstark [at] copper.net>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Partial FC: Commercial A/C refrigerant

 

IMO your car guy does not know what he's talking about.  There is no such thing as "commercial" refrigerant so he's probably referring to R134a.  Here's a good read on converting from R12 to R134a - http://www.griffiths.com/achelp/achelp3.html

 

On 10/9/2014 10:20 PM, Fellippe Galletta wrote:

Erik's analogy of the 512BB air conditioning reminded me of something...

 

A car guy told me recently he uses commercial A/C refrigerant in his truck and the cold air it produces is insane. I asked him which one he uses and hasn't gotten back to me.

 

Is this something anyone would consider on the older cars? It's better than using R12.

 

Nobody should have to suffer from subpar A/C in a 30 year old car, and that statement alone should stand up in the court of law.

 

:)

 

FG

 

 

 

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