Ferrari Mailing List: Re: OT - Update on Rick's purchas

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

I'd like a Maybach 57 as well, but they've got a ways to go on the depreciation curve before I really consider buying one.  The latter Phantoms are cool, but I still like the styling of the SZ cars, something about the age I was when I got into cars. 

 

I wouldn't kick a new Phantom DHC with teak decking and a polished aluminum hood out of the garage...

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Erik,

My WHOLE list is way too long, but I will tell you that on it is a
Phantom-V or Phantom-VI. To have a big huge car with good climate
control and really neat amenities in the back would be a really cool
family road-trip car. Probably won't get one, but given the budget it
would be a no-brainer.

-Matt

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> We're up to seven cars here, still Ferrari at the core of the fleet but no
> desire to get another one at today's prices.  I've got a good mix where I
> don't have any two cars trying to do the same thing.  What is still
> "missing" is a nice LWB Rolls Royce of some vintage, it will be an SZ car,
> but I'm waiting for the right one.  Beyond that, disposable daily drivers.
>
> '14 Fiat 500L Trekking
> '12 Fiat 500 Prima Edizione
> '88 Bentley Mulsanne S
> '83 Ferrari 308 GTS QV
> '82 Ferrari Mondial 8
> '75 Ferrari 365 GT4 2+2
> '74 Mercedes 450SL
>
> And the Royce would be different enough from the Bentley with no overlap.
>
> Erik
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I'll continue in the slightly OT vein and just say I'm a little
>> jealous. I'm missing two ingredients that you have right now, and that
>> is time and money. I'm aiming hard though to emulate your hobby in
>> another 15 years when I retire, as my current cashflow goes towards
>> retirement savings, college savings, everyday life, and a monthly
>> Tesla payment. All that said, everything is set up so that when I turn
>> about 59, everything will be paid off, I'll be retired, and the kids
>> will be out of the house. The retirement fund will enable me to
>> fulfill the hobby just like you are.
>>
>> We are very alike in our makeup regarding the toy hobby, even if not
>> exactly the same tastes. I have no allegiances. I've had two Ferraris
>> (one you know well), a Jag (XJR), two Rolls-Royces (88 Spur and now a
>> 39 Phantom-III with a sweet V12), a Bentley Turbo R (from former
>> lister Dave Quick), still have my 57 Chevy I bought 28 years ago when
>> I was 16, the Model S P85 as our daily driver, used to have a 78 MB
>> 450SEL as a backup daily driver up until last year, and then the more
>> mundane 91 Volvo 940 Turbo I'm still keeping for my son who turns 16
>> in a few months, the 04 minivan, and George Parker's 04 Jetta TDI
>> wagon. All have their place. I still have on my list a desire for a
>> free-flow exhaust American muscle car, a little British sportscar (not
>> anytime soon so I have plenty time to thnk about what that'll be), and
>> I could go on...and on...but it'll be several years before I can start
>> "being like Rick."
>>
>> Keep us posted.
>>
>> -Matt
>> 85 euro 308
>> 39 rr p-iii
>> 57 bel air
>> 13 model s p85
>> 91 volvo 940 turbo
>> 04 jetta tdi wagon
>> 04 sienna xle limited awd (SWEEET!)
>> 99 bounder 36s
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Morning Friends,
>> >
>> > I now own 10 cars, 8 of which are of particular interest. They are
>> > varied
>> > marques and styles of cars - a point many marque-specific guys can't
>> > seem to
>> > understand. Point is, I'm not a Ferrari guy, or a Triumph guy, or... I'm
>> > a
>> > machine guy, and old cars top the list of my interests.
>> >
>> > A friend on the Triumph TR3 list wrote,
>> >
>> >> Rick, don't worry about "the wedge"
>> >> in the garage...they get along very
>> >> well with TR's...
>> >
>> > Harmony in the garage is very important. Side by side, my two TRs make
>> > for
>> > quite a contrast. That's a Triumph TR3 next to a Testarossa. :-P And
>> > contrasts keep life interesting.
>> >
>> > John went on to write,
>> >
>> >> My TR7 "wedge" is very happy next
>> >> to the TR2, and they are so different,
>> >> that it makes for  great conversasions.
>> >
>> > Personally, I really like the TR7 and TR8. In fact, when I went
>> > searching
>> > for the next late, great project, I started out looking for a Triumph
>> > 'wedge', of either 7 or 8 fame. Failing in that search, or perhaps
>> > because I
>> > became distracted, my quest turned toward a Lotus Europa. Having
>> > previously
>> > owned an S2 Europa with Renault power, I searched specifically for a
>> > Lotus-Ford TwinCam powered car. I found either total basket cases with
>> > damaged fiberglass and broken drivetrains, or overpriced running
>> > examples
>> > ranging from 'drivers' to show cars. CG's response to my frustration
>> > was,
>> > "How about an early Esprit?" That car was not even on my radar.
>> >
>> > My quest changed but my budget didn't. I found a quite rare '79 Esprit
>> > 'John
>> > Player Special' in dreadful but complete and undamaged condition. Hadn't
>> > turned over in decades, but the price was a little steep, considering
>> > that
>> > it needed everything - plus a year or two of work. This isn't my first
>> > rodeo
>> > so I know what a restoration costs, even to 'just usable' status. And
>> > that
>> > cost can double with a limited production exotic! I passed on the JPS
>> > but by
>> > then, I was firmly on the search for an Esprit.
>> >
>> > At the outset of the search, I joined the early Esprit e-mail list.
>> > That's
>> > where I found the JPS car, which has since been purchased buy a guy with
>> > the
>> > means to restore it correctly. I have no clue as to what it will be
>> > worth
>> > when he is done, but that's not the point. Of greater importance is that
>> > a
>> > rare car (about 100 made) will be saved from parts-car status, or worse.
>> >
>> > Shortly after declining the JPS car, a long-time Lotus owner and expert
>> > restorer offered to me his restored '78 Esprit. That car too is
>> > acceptably
>> > rare, with only 474 cars (hand) made in 1978. The restoration is about a
>> > decade old but the work was done expertly and has been treated with TLC
>> > ever
>> > since. What the car needed, and still needs today, is a thorough
>> > exterior
>> > cleaning, polishing and waxing, plus tires and the routine maintenance
>> > brought up to date. It appears that the PO's interest in the car
>> > declined
>> > and it was left unused in dry storage for over a year. About 6 months
>> > ago it
>> > was driven but performed poorly thanks to quite old fuel and probably a
>> > bit
>> > of gum buildup in the carburetors. At not quite twice the price of the
>> > JPS,
>> > this normally aspirated '78 Esprit S2 is the car that I bought.
>> >
>> > So in my immediate future are numerous maintenance steps. None the least
>> > of
>> > these are draining (pumping) any remaining old fuel, flushing the fuel
>> > lines, and probably rebuilding a pair of Dellorto carburetors. (The
>> > Dellorto
>> > side draught carburettors are quite similar to and interchangable with,
>> > Weber 45DCOEs, and are of similar quality devices.) They are easily
>> > rebuildable and ultimately tunable.  Of course, also in the queue are
>> > replacing all fluids, new hoses and ancillary belts. An A/C recharge, if
>> > not
>> > rebuild, is almost a certainty. Fortunately, Houston's weather has
>> > cooled a
>> > bit so that can wait.
>> >
>> > Granted, this note and the whole theme is 'off topic' but that never
>> > stopped
>> > us before. I'll share a few pictures and stories, and hopefully no
>> > horror
>> > stories, all in limited quantity, once the car arrives.
>> >
>> > We now rejoin your regularly scheduled program, already in progess.
>> >
>> > -rick
>> >
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