Ferrari Mailing List: Re: OT - Collection Storage

[Charles Perry (charles]

Brian -

I can't relate to not knowing where I parked my cars, but I am interested in 
your warehousing. I'm fortunate that my company has a spare 10,000 sq ft 
warehouse where I keep my cars. I'm interested in renting out the remaining 
space to enthusiasts. Would you mind sharing what your friends charge for that 
storage? Also, what security/surveillance to they have to protect the cars with 
multiple people coming and going? I'm less worried about overall theft than 
someone perhaps dinging/scratching another owners car and how they handle that.

I'm adding some high grade lighting and a lift for my own use. Do you have a 
guess as to how much value that would add to a potential renter if they were 
allowed to use it?

Everyone else feel free to chime in. All thoughts appreciated...

-- charles



-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+charles=carolina-sound.com [at] 
ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of bglarson [at] transystems.com
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:41 AM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] OT - Update on Rick's purchas

Gents:
I'm largely an interested lurker on the list, but this topic hits home with me. 
 I am on the cusp of retirement and have managed to indulge in my appetite for 
cars over the past seven or eight years to add to my 69 Z/28RS which I have 
enjoyed for 32 years.  Now the list totals 11 cars including 2 drivers (me and 
the mrs), one track car and the rest being taken out regularly but always only 
for fun. The marques are Chevy(1), Ford(1), Ferrari(1), Pontiac(1), Porsche(1), 
BMW(6), 50/50 mix of 1960-70s cars and 2000 era cars. 
My garaging is a fright, something I manage between lifts Ive installed, 
friend's garages, and rental storage from fellow enthusiasts who have bought a 
warehouse.  I would be interested and appreciative of hearing what others have 
done when they find themselves in the spot of waking up and deciding they want 
to drive one of their beloved cars but forgot which parking spot they left it 
in.  I realize the potential for humor here, and that's ok too, but I am 
sensing the need to forge a direction that doesn't involve a shotgun.  Thanks 
Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+bglarson=transystems.com [at] 
ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Matt Boyd
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:42 AM
To: HQ-Brian Larson
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] OT - Update on Rick's purchas

Rick,

I'll continue in the slightly OT vein and just say I'm a little jealous. I'm 
missing two ingredients that you have right now, and that is time and money. 
I'm aiming hard though to emulate your hobby in another 15 years when I retire, 
as my current cashflow goes towards retirement savings, college savings, 
everyday life, and a monthly Tesla payment. All that said, everything is set up 
so that when I turn about 59, everything will be paid off, I'll be retired, and 
the kids will be out of the house. The retirement fund will enable me to 
fulfill the hobby just like you are.

We are very alike in our makeup regarding the toy hobby, even if not exactly 
the same tastes. I have no allegiances. I've had two Ferraris (one you know 
well), a Jag (XJR), two Rolls-Royces (88 Spur and now a
39 Phantom-III with a sweet V12), a Bentley Turbo R (from former lister Dave 
Quick), still have my 57 Chevy I bought 28 years ago when I was 16, the Model S 
P85 as our daily driver, used to have a 78 MB 450SEL as a backup daily driver 
up until last year, and then the more mundane 91 Volvo 940 Turbo I'm still 
keeping for my son who turns 16 in a few months, the 04 minivan, and George 
Parker's 04 Jetta TDI wagon. All have their place. I still have on my list a 
desire for a free-flow exhaust American muscle car, a little British sportscar 
(not anytime soon so I have plenty time to thnk about what that'll be), and I 
could go on...and on...but it'll be several years before I can start "being 
like Rick."

Keep us posted.

-Matt
85 euro 308
39 rr p-iii
57 bel air
13 model s p85
91 volvo 940 turbo
04 jetta tdi wagon
04 sienna xle limited awd (SWEEET!)
99 bounder 36s

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> 
wrote:
> Morning Friends,
>
> I now own 10 cars, 8 of which are of particular interest. They are 
> varied marques and styles of cars - a point many marque-specific guys 
> can't seem to understand. Point is, I'm not a Ferrari guy, or a 
> Triumph guy, or... I'm a machine guy, and old cars top the list of my 
> interests.
>
> A friend on the Triumph TR3 list wrote,
>
>> Rick, don't worry about "the wedge"
>> in the garage...they get along very
>> well with TR's...
>
> Harmony in the garage is very important. Side by side, my two TRs make 
> for quite a contrast. That's a Triumph TR3 next to a Testarossa. :-P 
> And contrasts keep life interesting.
>
> John went on to write,
>
>> My TR7 "wedge" is very happy next
>> to the TR2, and they are so different, that it makes for  great 
>> conversasions.
>
> Personally, I really like the TR7 and TR8. In fact, when I went 
> searching for the next late, great project, I started out looking for 
> a Triumph 'wedge', of either 7 or 8 fame. Failing in that search, or 
> perhaps because I became distracted, my quest turned toward a Lotus 
> Europa. Having previously owned an S2 Europa with Renault power, I 
> searched specifically for a Lotus-Ford TwinCam powered car. I found 
> either total basket cases with damaged fiberglass and broken 
> drivetrains, or overpriced running examples ranging from 'drivers' to 
> show cars. CG's response to my frustration was, "How about an early Esprit?" 
> That car was not even on my radar.
>
> My quest changed but my budget didn't. I found a quite rare '79 Esprit 
> 'John Player Special' in dreadful but complete and undamaged 
> condition. Hadn't turned over in decades, but the price was a little 
> steep, considering that it needed everything - plus a year or two of 
> work. This isn't my first rodeo so I know what a restoration costs, 
> even to 'just usable' status. And that cost can double with a limited 
> production exotic! I passed on the JPS but by then, I was firmly on the 
> search for an Esprit.
>
> At the outset of the search, I joined the early Esprit e-mail list. 
> That's where I found the JPS car, which has since been purchased buy a 
> guy with the means to restore it correctly. I have no clue as to what 
> it will be worth when he is done, but that's not the point. Of greater 
> importance is that a rare car (about 100 made) will be saved from parts-car 
> status, or worse.
>
> Shortly after declining the JPS car, a long-time Lotus owner and 
> expert restorer offered to me his restored '78 Esprit. That car too is 
> acceptably rare, with only 474 cars (hand) made in 1978. The 
> restoration is about a decade old but the work was done expertly and 
> has been treated with TLC ever since. What the car needed, and still 
> needs today, is a thorough exterior cleaning, polishing and waxing, 
> plus tires and the routine maintenance brought up to date. It appears 
> that the PO's interest in the car declined and it was left unused in 
> dry storage for over a year. About 6 months ago it was driven but 
> performed poorly thanks to quite old fuel and probably a bit of gum 
> buildup in the carburetors. At not quite twice the price of the JPS, this 
> normally aspirated '78 Esprit S2 is the car that I bought.
>
> So in my immediate future are numerous maintenance steps. None the 
> least of these are draining (pumping) any remaining old fuel, flushing 
> the fuel lines, and probably rebuilding a pair of Dellorto 
> carburetors. (The Dellorto side draught carburettors are quite similar 
> to and interchangable with, Weber 45DCOEs, and are of similar quality
> devices.) They are easily rebuildable and ultimately tunable.  Of 
> course, also in the queue are replacing all fluids, new hoses and 
> ancillary belts. An A/C recharge, if not rebuild, is almost a 
> certainty. Fortunately, Houston's weather has cooled a bit so that can wait.
>
> Granted, this note and the whole theme is 'off topic' but that never 
> stopped us before. I'll share a few pictures and stories, and 
> hopefully no horror stories, all in limited quantity, once the car arrives.
>
> We now rejoin your regularly scheduled program, already in progess.
>
> -rick
>
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