Re: Abu Dhabi F1 points, etc.
From: Erik Nielsen (judge4regmail.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:27:08 -0800 (PST)
Specify dimensions, minimum weight, safety requirements and fuel per race allotment.  Let the engineers have at it.
 
Still, no one cares and no one is watching.  The sport is dying, Bernie et. al. will get paid but the rest of the world will shrug its shoulders and say meh...

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:16 AM, LS via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
Rick, well put.

I would only add that the Displacement regulation is archaic and meaningless. The engine limiting intiative should be incorporated into the Fuel Economy and Weight.

If the car can be fuel efficient and still come in under weight then it shouldn't matter if it is a 4.0 liter V8 or a 2.0 liter twin turbo V6 since the latter could be more thirsty and heavier.

This would really motivate the engineers to produce the most efficient and reliable powerplant possible.

LS
 



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From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:27 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Abu Dhabi F1 points, etc.

I think this was epitomized by the crash of Bianchi... and the whole "paid seat" driver issue in F1.  As soon as Bianchi was hurt and his paid seat money stopped, the team imploded around him.

I just don't see that there should be paid seats in F1.  F1 should be the best drivers in the best cars a team can field.  Instead we are looking at paid seats, no testing, crap tires, carnival points, frozen motor homologations, green cars (yeah, what they don't tell you is they are tossing $400K worth of toxic batteries every week...per car), cars that sound flatulent, technologies that might actually help road cars (FRIC) being banned... shall I go on?

And its all in the name of putting on an "appearance" that its something they are not...  anymore.

And this whole row over the motors... Mercedes will quit if they don't use turbo V6s... waaaah.  Some teams want the V8's back, some want a V12 again.  -EASY, get rid of most of the stinking regulations and go back to Formula One at its essence...  Weight, Wheelbase, Displacement (use a modifier for turbo vs. NA)...  add the safety/crash regs.  Then stand back and stay the F out of the designer's way.   Let them test but only on their home track  (see how many stay in rainy England).   OH, and get rid of Charlie Whiting and his moveable aero NAZIs!!  And get rid of DRS.  Its only viable if all drivers can use it everywhere... and then why have it?

<soap box mode off>
Rick






From: Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Abu Dhabi F1 points, etc.

I agree this has been the most lackluster season ever 


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On Nov 18, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Gang,

You guys up for the last GP of the season? Yea, uhhh, me neither. I think the race may be pretty good but, who gives a wet damn who wins? The points abortion makes actual performance meaningless. The championship winner may well come down to randomizing elements! 

What we may see is some good back-marker racing. I mean, no one needs to protect the cars for the next race! Could be a good race back there. Up front, it could be a parade. Either way, I'll watch, on the DVR so I can deny  Formula 1 Group their advertising.

A point of interest: I just spent the last 10 days in Europe (Germany, Holland, France and Switzerland) and NO ONE was talking about F1. No news stories. No posters in windows. Nothing. That's pretty telling...

-rick
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