Re: SPOILER potential
From: John Ashburne (jashburneaol.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:52:13 -0800 (PST)
Of course it is a show, not as contrived and scripted as NASCAR, but not a very 
good show right now. 

John

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> On Nov 23, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You guys actually think F1 is something more than a show?  What's in your 
> coffee cups?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yea, everyone gets a trophy. Pashaw!
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Rick Moseley
>> Date:11/23/2014 7:53 AM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: Rick Lindsay
>> Cc: The FerrariList
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SPOILER potential
>> 
>> Agreed...  And also up to early. 
>> 
>> The whole RBR wing thing reads poorly.  So the stewards punish RBR because 
>> they "think" RBR is doing something wrong.  The video confirms it but the F1 
>> scrutineers aren't bright enough to come up with a static test to prove it.  
>>  All this just kills initiative... But that seems to be the way of the world 
>> these days.   Too many socialist ideals. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 5:37 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Those of you who really know me also know that despite having red cars in 
>>> the garage, I'm no more Tofosi than my mailman. I just love machines. Its 
>>> why i follow F1. So the message in my previous rant wasn't prompted by 
>>> sour-grapes. It came from disappointment with current rules of F1, and the 
>>> preferential enforcement if those rules.
>>> 
>>> I put Ferrari's poor performance this season, down to the rule preventing 
>>> in-season engine development. Makes me ponder all the changes Renault did 
>>> after their disastrous season start. Hummm...
>>> 
>>> Ferrari started with an engine lacking in performance, with no opportunity 
>>> permitted in-season to improve it, and continued a season of untested 
>>> radical chassis tweaks in the attempt to compensate. I only hope they have 
>>> learned a lot from these 'tests', that are applicable to next season.
>>> 
>>> I also just hope someone in Formula 1 management comes to their senses 
>>> before marketing and political correctness pushes the series into bio-fuels 
>>> and gluten free tires!
>>> 
>>> -rick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: John Ashburne
>>> Date:11/23/2014 6:14 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Rick Lindsay
>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SPOILER potential
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> I agree, and I have been thinking the same thing about Leigh, David and 
>>> Steve. It must be making them ill to have to put on a smile and gush about 
>>> what an exciting season it has been. 
>>> 
>>> There is only so much interest in a close race between P3 and P10, and that 
>>> was because of the points. As the season dragged on, and it has dragged, 
>>> even that devolved to literally a handful of seconds in a race while the 
>>> pass was taking place that were truly interesting.  A soccer game that ends 
>>> in a scoreless tie is about as interesting a way to waste 2 hours. 
>>> 
>>> I just shook my head a couple of races ago when they tried to create some 
>>> excitement in the "battle for P12" or some other meaningless spot in the 
>>> back of the field. 
>>> 
>>> Let's hope that someone figures out a way to return F1 to its place at the 
>>> pinnacle of racing. It sure ain't there now. 
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> Sent from my ATT Bell Rotary Dial Phone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Rick Lindsay <richardolindsay [at] gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Friends, 
>>>> 
>>>> I just read an extended article on Red Bull's flexible wing elements tests 
>>>> and the resulting grid penalties. What a load of prejudicial crap! I'd 
>>>> really like to know which fart-nugget steward or disgruntled engineer in a 
>>>> lower championship team, triggered the investigation! I mean, final 
>>>> position in the constructor's championship translates to money. Who 
>>>> benefits from ratting-out Red Bull for exploiting the 
>>>> letter-of-the-regulations, just like every other team?! Granted, Williams 
>>>> can't catch Red Bull in the constructor's ranking but that doesn't mean 
>>>> there isn't value to be gained elsewhere. Then again, the whole thing 
>>>> could be as simple as an over zealous steward wanting to feel important.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm pretty happy that the stupid double-points thing isn't giving the 
>>>> championship to an undeserving driver. Bernie's whole issue was to 
>>>> randomize the last race to hold the TV audience, or at a minimum, to keep 
>>>> this waining sport in the media. Realistically, the championship is 
>>>> already won. A Mercedes driver will win it. Who cares which one?! They're 
>>>> equally talented in nicely matched outstanding cars. The prize is going to 
>>>> the participating company with the biggest and most experienced R&D 
>>>> department; the company with oodles of experience with turbo engines and 
>>>> hybrid configurations. I can't wait until Honda steps back in with what 
>>>> promises to be an outstanding power plant. Its just a shame that Audi 
>>>> doesn't build an F1 engine!
>>>> 
>>>> So the season is ending and championships are all-but decided, unless the 
>>>> stewards choose to steal points for some implied infraction. I must admit 
>>>> that I'm pretty tired of my favorite TV announcers - Lee, David and Steve 
>>>> - telling me what a great season its been and what a great race today will 
>>>> be, as they try to infuse a little enthusiasm back into the process that 
>>>> pays their salaries. In contrast, Mark Weber has it right. Forget this 
>>>> rule-strangled and stage-managed series and move on to sports car racing. 
>>>> And at a minimum, let us also move on to next year and hope for a less 
>>>> boring, management-meddling season.
>>>> 
>>>> Your mileage may certainly vary.
>>>> 
>>>> -rick, up way too early
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