Ferrari Mailing List: Re: SR-71

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From: Clyde Romero (clyderomerof4bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 05:04:13 -0800 (PST)

Wow did not Kowloon that

Man what are you doing up this early out west?

To bad he didn't teach his son how to fly well

Didn't he kill himself in a plane crash?

In victory you deserve Champagne

In defeat you need it!

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you follow all the rules

You miss all the fun!

Clyde Romero

Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.

678 6419932

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On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:16 AM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Yep, I'm gonna murder his last name but Col. Dutchendorf (John's real name) held speed records in the B58.

On Nov 26, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
John Denver’s father was a B58 pilot. Don’t know much more than that.
DOUG

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Rick Moseley
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:46 PM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SR-71

We both forgot the biggest reason the B58 was shot down....

McNamara - Kennedy's executioner with a pen.
Who, also ordered all the tooling for the SRs to be destroyed so no one could ever spend anymore money building them...

B58 Trivia - what's the connection between the B58 Hustler and John Denver?

On Nov 26, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
Maintenace
They only built 100 of them and at high Mach numbers if an engine failed the yaw would rip the airplane apart
It happens more than once
And it has small brakes and it landed at high speeds
Brake fires were a major problem
The nose gear retraction system was a Rube Goldberg system
Take a look at it
It looked like a praying mantis that had arthritis!
It was cutting edge for the time but the mission profile was gruesome with no terrain following system to assist the pilot it was really a day vfr nuclear bomber
It was my child hood favorite even though it was SAC not TAC

In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you follow all the rules
You miss all the fun!

Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.
678 6419932

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
Cool – one of my favorites Clyde. I also have a Mach meter for this puppy. Love the ‘clam shell’ escape pods. What knocked off the B-58? ICBM’s. Curse them
DOUG

From: Clyde Romero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 5:46 PM
To: Doug & Terri
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SR-71

Call out to the Pima museum
The stuff on the SR came out of the B-58 which was a Mach 2 bomber
My favorite plane which got me into the Air Force, a little to late to fly it but she was my baby
4 J 79's

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In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you follow all the rules
You miss all the fun!

Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.
678 6419932

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
I watched Clyde’s video – hmmm, I have an SR-71 airspeed / Mach indicator (most likely the same for the F104) and would like to get the “triple gauge.” The REAL speedometer. Heck – I’d like to get a clock – now THOSE have to be generic. Any ideas? I’ll entertain any thots except those from Clyde who’d most likely say that I have a chance finding one of those on the open market as I do looking in my ass. Ohhhh, that Clyde – we got your number. Heh heh
DOUG

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Rick Moseley
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:59 PM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SR-71

Clyde's right. It took a huge effort to get Kelly Johnson a ride... And he built the thing.

On Nov 26, 2014, at 1:34 PM, clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
Total Bullshit
The only civilians that ever flew in the SR series to include the A-11/12 were CIA or NASA guys

In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

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Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.
678 6419932

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From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+clyderomerof4=bellsouth.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of LarryT
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:38 PM
To: Clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SR-71

Hearing about the Russians attempt to shoot down (or just catch) a SR71 was amazing - by the time the SR71 appeared on the radar and they *started* to launch aircraft, the SR71 was long gone. It's hard to comprehend how fast 2500mph (or more if needed) actually is.

A while back a SR71 took one of the British "Top Gear" guys was given a ride.   Seems like it should have been an American (me!!) getting that incredible ride.

LarryT
On 11/26/2014 11:55 AM, clyde romero wrote:
During the Cold war, most did not know that the soviets had a dedicated fleet of MIG-25’s with a sole mission of shooting down a SR-71 and AWACS in Europe
We used to use the SR platform as a high fast flyer masking as a   FOXBAT attacking the AWACS tracks that were CAPed with F-15.
AWACS would run the retrograde ops while the F -15 tried like hell to run an intercept on FOXBAT simulator
Having been on a couple of those runs it wasn’t easy at all , especially for the AWACS crews
Glad that shit is over

In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

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Scars are tattoos with better stories!

Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.
678 6419932

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From: Rick Moseley [mailto:ramosel [at] pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:28 AM
To: Clyde Romero
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SR-71

Erik, Clyde,
Sled Driver was a great book. The new version is even better. If any of you are a fan of Sled Driver, Brian has released a new updated version of the book and both go along with "The Untouchables" which was his follow on to the original Sled Driver. Now that I'm retired an my days of flying CAP for the SR's over the Barents are long behind me I've moved back to Northern Calif. and live very near Mr. Shul and have talked with him many times and visited his Studio/Gallery in Marysville (Just outside of Beale where the Blackbirds roosted).

Rich Graham is a great guy and we've had several conversations over the years ( I chased him down at the Pentagon an made a HABU pitch at him in the 80s). Rich has also authored a number of books (4 or 5 now) which are all great reads if you are into this.

As I mentioned in my F1 rant, my heroes are the designers (Murray, Tyrrell, Brawn, etc) but for anyone who purports themselves as an engineer, the GOD of all modern day engineers is Kelly Johnson. He too has an autobiography just called "Kelly" but perhaps the best book regarding the A12/SR71 and all its variants is by Kelly's protege and successor, Ben Rich simply called "Skunkworks". Ben designed the inlet spike/throat/doors on the SRs and if you don't understand what that means to the speed of the aircraft, you are truly missing a monstrous achievement from the mind of man. And it still stands today. It was a sad day when they retired the SR71s... both times.

Thanks for sharing that video, Clyde. I'll call Rich and find out if that will be released as a DVD? It's about time I make another donation to the JT Vida foundation.

Rick

From: Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SR-71

Sled Driver is a great book
But nothing like the interview which is long on the link I sent out
It covers everything from pilot selection to mission profile bases Dets airframe performance
Most of what he says was classified at the secret level years ago
He even talks of camera resolution which was un heard of and highly classified
And great book to read on this subject since this is what I did on another level is the the book
The Big Safari
Happy holidays to all
And yes your son is lucky indeed to see a national asset such as that everyday
In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you follow all the rules
You miss all the fun!

Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.
678 6419932

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
If you get bored this holiday season, I highly recommend reading “Sled Driver”.

Here is a link to the pdf (http://mirror.xwl.me/Sled%20Driver.pdf) as they typically are about $500 on Amazon for a used copy.

Erik
very lucky to live just a few miles down the road from 60-6930, one of the original A12s from the program, my son sees it 2x a day going to and from school...

On Nov 25, 2014, at 5:48 PM, clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

neat stuff, but very basic

SR-71 Cockpit Checkout

by ErikJohnston

This video is available for purchase. Please contact me if you would like to purchase a dvd. Autographed copies by Richard Graham are available as well. Email me at veterantales [at] gmail.com

Richard Graham was nice enough to give us a cockpit checkout in both the pilot and RSO stations. We shot this on location at the Frontiers of Flight Museum at Love Field Dallas Texas. This simulator was used to train every operational SR pilot before they ever set foot in the actual plane.

Here is he link to the entire interview I did with Rich. I hope you like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBu6mRDaro&feature=c4-overview&list=UUYYT43aHuHaVcdbuJ4YYCjw

In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

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Scars are tattoos with better stories!

Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.
678 6419932

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