Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 107, Issue 22
From: Clyde Romero (clyderomerof4bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:21:13 -0700 (PDT)
Chris I agree with you totally 
I reviewed the factory coolant diagram in the book
It looks as if the right thermostat is the culprit 
 I am buying factory replacement units always have 
Even though some say a GM unit will work 
Will keep you posted
Looks like about a 8 hour job 
Going to replace the plenum hoses under the intake manifold while I am there as well

Clyde

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On Jun 21, 2015, at 9:12 PM, Chris Hill via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

If the TR thermostats do not open fully, the coolant is recirculated in the engine instead of being sent to the radiator.
The disc at the bottom of the thermostat closes off the re circulation passages in the thermostat housing on the firewall.
Replace both with factory thermostats.
They are not inexpensive but TR cylinder heads lose their temper if overheated too many times, then the heads will not maintain proper torque because the aluminum is too soft and deforms, then the motor will not stay water tight

Thank you
Chris Hill

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 1. 512 temp problem solved I think (clyde romero)
 2. Re: 512 temp problem solved I think (Doug & Terri)
 3. Re: 512 temp problem solved I think (Clyde Romero)


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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:14:14 -0400
From: "clyde romero" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] 512 temp problem solved I think
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Guys I think I found the problem

It?s a stuck thermostat on the engine right side looking from the back

Ran a coolant flush and got the fans to come on as advertised at 185

With a IR thermal gun checked the upper pipe which is the one where the thermostats push water into the radiator out of the engine

The left one with fans on goes to 185

The right one stays at 195 ? 197 or so

Highest temp reading in the cockpit one line over the 195 mark and it stay there ! fans on

The radiators are relatively small for a 5 liter engine  and with one thermostat not opening all the way it cannot overcome the higher temp on the right side

If it were a clogged radiator I believe that the temps would go way higher than 195 at idle







CLYDE



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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:35:35 -0700
From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "'clyde romero'" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512 temp problem solved I think
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Hooray for Clyde diagnostic acumen - - - and

The List.  -- Great family

Happy Father?s out there.

Onward

DOUG





From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of clyde romero
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:14 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] 512 temp problem solved I think



Guys I think I found the problem

It?s a stuck thermostat on the engine right side looking from the back

Ran a coolant flush and got the fans to come on as advertised at 185

With a IR thermal gun checked the upper pipe which is the one where the thermostats push water into the radiator out of the engine

The left one with fans on goes to 185

The right one stays at 195 ? 197 or so

Highest temp reading in the cockpit one line over the 195 mark and it stay there ! fans on

The radiators are relatively small for a 5 liter engine  and with one thermostat not opening all the way it cannot overcome the higher temp on the right side

If it were a clogged radiator I believe that the temps would go way higher than 195 at idle







CLYDE



In victory you deserve Champagne

In defeat you need it!

<http://gallery.mailchimp.com/d50199eadaa3846040c76511e/images/Screen_shot_2013_05_29_at_9.18.02_AM.png>    







Scars are tattoos with better stories!



Clyde Romero

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678  6419932



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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:12:50 -0400
From: Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 512 temp problem solved I think
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Oh yeah
Happy Father day to all

Clyde Romero

If you have no enemies
You have no character !

In Victory you deserve Champagne
In Defeat You Need It!

If you obey all the rules
You miss all the fun !






On Jun 21, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

Hooray for Clyde diagnostic acumen - - - and
The List.  -- Great family
Happy Father?s out there.
Onward
DOUG


From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of clyde romero
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:14 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] 512 temp problem solved I think

Guys I think I found the problem
It?s a stuck thermostat on the engine right side looking from the back
Ran a coolant flush and got the fans to come on as advertised at 185
With a IR thermal gun checked the upper pipe which is the one where the thermostats push water into the radiator out of the engine
The left one with fans on goes to 185
The right one stays at 195 ? 197 or so
Highest temp reading in the cockpit one line over the 195 mark and it stay there ! fans on
The radiators are relatively small for a 5 liter engine  and with one thermostat not opening all the way it cannot overcome the higher temp on the right side
If it were a clogged radiator I believe that the temps would go way higher than 195 at idle



CLYDE

In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!
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Scars are tattoos with better stories!

Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.          
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