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From: Charles Perry (charles carolina-sound.com)
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| Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 18:14:09 -0800 (PST) | |
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Doing some research on something else, I stumbled across this page which is still up. Awesome summary of the whole event, and pictures of Joe’s Countach. From
the pic, it looks like the carbs are side-draft, so maybe I was just thinking about him synching the Ferrari throttles from above… Enjoy! Hard to believe this is almost 20 years ago now… http://www.camerafilters.com/ec/hallett98.htm From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
It could very well have been another Countach that he owned.
We promise not to laugh at denim shorts! LSJ central
wines-spirits est 1934 625 e street nw washington, dc 20004 202-737-2800 From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com> Now that I’m thinking about it, what he was showing us was how to synchronize the throttles properly for the various carbs, but he absolutely
put the airflow meter on intakes at the TOP of the motor. Maybe I’m just not up on carb tech, but wouldn’t sidedraft carbs be drawing air from the sides of the motor? I know he owned several Countaches and at least one Diablo 6.0. Is it possible the Hallet car was a downdraft QV? From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
CG, it was definitely not a DD but a "regular" 5000S 2 valve.
And, I'm assuming we're talking about *the* Martz Countach and not one of many that he has owned? Obviously an amazing car still...but not quite the same thing. LSJ central
wines-spirits est 1934 625 e street nw washington, dc 20004 202-737-2800 From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com> Am I remembering it wrong? It was definitely a downdraft, since I recall him showing us how to synch the carbs at Hallett, but I guess
I don’t know if there were 2V downdrafts or only QVs? From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
CG, is that also the time you performed your own torsional rigidity test on the TR? Martz had a terrific black 5000S 2valve which I fondly remember driving around Santa Fe, NM a *long* time ago. Epic memories! Nutty full circle...I rode in that car again 3 yrs ago from Gilroy to Monterey. LSJ central
wines-spirits est 1934 625 e street nw washington, dc 20004 202-737-2800 From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com> Good memory, Erik! Definitely extreme pucker factor there. I had the TR on the track twice – once at Talladega (short track, not super-speedway)
and once at the big list gathering at Hallett. Definitely cooked the brakes like mad at Talladega, but that was originally built as a motorcycle track, so the poor TR was even more out of its element than it would’ve been at a “normal” track. After that fun I upgraded my TR brakes to the F50 setup. I’ve never overheated them since, but I did create a different problem wherein
at heavy braking I can now lock the front wheels pretty much instantaneously. I’ve had to re-learn my braking in that car under panic situations to break lightly for a split second to get some forward weight transfer, and then go heavy into them. Works, but
still an eye-opener each time. I looked into installing a proportioning valve that could vary the brake bias and push a little more toward the rear but never found anyone in whom I felt comfort assigning that work. I can’t honestly remember whether I did the F50 upgrade before or after the Hallett track day, but I do remember the car was HUGE fun
there, both figuratively and literally. Hallett is a much larger track with nice flow and a good front straight. I’m sure the smaller, lighter cars were much faster on timed laps, but I just know the TR kept me giggling like an idiot all day. One of my fondest
memories is chasing Joe Martz around that day in his downdraft QV Countach (also not an ideal track car). The two of us had a few lovely four wheel drifts coming around the entrance corner onto the main straight and then hammering the two 12s – it was just
amazing. In fact, the Hallett trip was one of the most fun and memorable of my life, so hats off to Rick Lindsay and a couple of other Tulsa
residents at the time for organizing the first “national” level List event. From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+charles=carolina-sound.com [at] ferrarilist.com]
On Behalf Of Erik Nielsen The TR’s were definitely not track ready, especially the brakes. I’ll defer to Charles to explain exactly what he said when the middle pedal went to
the floor with nothing happening at Talledega many years ago...
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- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48, (continued)
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Charles Perry, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Erik Nielsen, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Charles Perry, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 LS, December 30 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Charles Perry, January 8 2016
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 clyderomerof4, December 28 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Fellippe Galletta, December 28 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Doug & Terri, December 28 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Rick Moseley, December 28 2015
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