Ferrari Mailing List: Foggy glass

The clock 'glass' is plastic because, at the time, it was difficult to drill 

a small hole through glass for the stem without the glass cracking. Ferrari 

took the easy way out!

The plastic will scratch with cleaning and will degrade over time, giving 

the foggy look. Now that you have it out, replace it with glass as now it 

can be drilled. The other gauges are glass and that's why they don't 

degrade.

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  1. Foggy glass clock: FINALE (Michel Savard)
  2. Re: Foggy glass clock: FINALE (Doug & Terri)
  3. Re: Foggy glass clock: FINALE (Peter Pless)
  4. Re: Foggy glass clock: FINALE (Grahame Reinthal)
  5. Re: Foggy glass clock: FINALE (Peter Rychel)
  6. Re: Foggy glass clock: FINALE (Doug & Terri)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 18:03:35 -0500
From: "Michel Savard" <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
To: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE
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Well the glass is damaged (foggy) beyond repair. It's some sort of 

plastic.

I tried a few things and it barely looks better. Anyway, the important 

thing

is, it still works. I hope so, if I damaged something, I'll only know next
spring.

I just don't understand why this one is bad and ALL my other gauges still
look great.

Thanks for trying to help!

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>

To: "'Michel Savard'" <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 2:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to go: FIRST DOWN

Congrats Michael - but, um, is the lens poly(methyl methacrylate) or

non-crystalline amorphous solid?  (ah ah ah  - I looked it up - plastic 

or

glass).
Sounds like you're on the way.
Gopher it.
DOUG

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On
Behalf Of Michel Savard
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 6:36 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to go: FIRST DOWN

Finally got the chrome off. 25 minutes of struggle. The stem for the 

hands

is still in place. But I'll manage to clean the glass anyway because it's
hanging on the outside of the clock. Time for a break and a beer.
Tomorrow,
glass cleaning day.

Michael Savard (1981 308GTSi)

 ----- Original Message ----- 

 From: Michel Savard

 To: mysavard [at] videotron.ca
 Cc: The FerrariList
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 9:04 PM
 Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:53:24 -0800
From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "'Michel Savard'" <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE
Message-ID: <001801d17671$0a107dd0$1e317970$@dock.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Michael asks "I just don't understand why this one [clock crystal] is 

bad

and ALL my other gauges still look great.

Could it be that you are exceeding Einstein's Time Dilation theory?  Could
it be Enzo had in for you?  Or could it be the clock crystal is acrylic
plastic affected by UV light and the other gauge crystals are glass?

Go with the latter.  Besides - to drill a hole in glass for the clock time

stem setter would be really delicate AND time con$uming for indu$try if 

the

crystal were glass.  So your clock face is plastic.

Did you look at the post I sent you a few days ago?

"Oh - - - If all else fails - look at this:"
http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/dino-era-206-246/11489-dino-diy-repairing-
clock.html

Onward

DOUG

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 11:17:09 +1100
From: "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
To: "'Michel Savard'" <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE
Message-ID: <000201d17674$5bc33a20$1349ae60$@pless.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I think the answer might be that the other dials are glass.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Savard [mailto:mysavard [at] videotron.ca]
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:04 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE

Well the glass is damaged (foggy) beyond repair. It's some sort of 

plastic.

I tried a few things and it barely looks better. Anyway, the important 

thing

is, it still works. I hope so, if I damaged something, I'll only know next
spring.

I just don't understand why this one is bad and ALL my other gauges still
look great.

Thanks for trying to help!

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "'Michel Savard'" <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 2:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to go: FIRST DOWN

Congrats Michael - but, um, is the lens poly(methyl methacrylate) or

non-crystalline amorphous solid?  (ah ah ah  - I looked it up - plastic 

or

glass).
Sounds like you're on the way.
Gopher it.
DOUG

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On
Behalf Of Michel Savard
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 6:36 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to go: FIRST DOWN

Finally got the chrome off. 25 minutes of struggle. The stem for the 

hands

is still in place. But I'll manage to clean the glass anyway because it's
hanging on the outside of the clock. Time for a break and a beer.
Tomorrow,
glass cleaning day.

Michael Savard (1981 308GTSi)

 ----- Original Message ----- 

 From: Michel Savard

 To: mysavard [at] videotron.ca
 Cc: The FerrariList
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 9:04 PM
 Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 13:57:14 +1100
From: Grahame Reinthal <grahame [at] reinthal.com.au>
To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE
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Just picked up on this conversation. You mean all this time there was a
clock behind that foggy dial? Wow - the things you find out!
Cheers,
Grahame

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari
[mailto:ferrari-bounces+grahame=reinthal.com.au [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Pless
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 11:17 AM
To: Grahame <grahame [at] reinthal.com.au>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE

I think the answer might be that the other dials are glass.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Savard [mailto:mysavard [at] videotron.ca]
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:04 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE

Well the glass is damaged (foggy) beyond repair. It's some sort of
plastic.
I tried a few things and it barely looks better. Anyway, the important
thing is, it still works. I hope so, if I damaged something, I'll only
know next spring.

I just don't understand why this one is bad and ALL my other gauges still
look great.

Thanks for trying to help!

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "'Michel Savard'" <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 2:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to go: FIRST DOWN

Congrats Michael - but, um, is the lens poly(methyl methacrylate) or
non-crystalline amorphous solid?  (ah ah ah  - I looked it up -
plastic or glass).
Sounds like you're on the way.
Gopher it.
DOUG

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On
Behalf Of Michel Savard
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 6:36 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to go: FIRST DOWN

Finally got the chrome off. 25 minutes of struggle. The stem for the
hands is still in place. But I'll manage to clean the glass anyway
because it's hanging on the outside of the clock. Time for a break and a

beer.

Tomorrow,
glass cleaning day.

Michael Savard (1981 308GTSi)
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Michel Savard
 To: mysavard [at] videotron.ca
 Cc: The FerrariList
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 9:04 PM
 Subject: [Ferrari] Foggy clock glass 4th down 1 yard to

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 08:01:23 +0000
From: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
To: Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE
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Actually, glass drills are no problem to get... Here's a huge assortment 

on Amazon, but I bet you could find one at your local hardware store:

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aglass%20drill%20bits

As for the glass, I don't remember what size it is, but watchmakers may 

have one (called "crystals"):

http://www.esslinger.com/watch-crystals/

My watch that I wear for work got damaged because I accidentally hit the 

corner and the mineral crystal busted... I bought a plastic one from 

Esslinger, along with the installation tool (a multi-jawed clamp which 

squeezes the crystal to a smaller diameter) and replaced it myself - very 

easy! In the case of the Ferrari clock, all that would be needed is a flat 

crystal the correct size and drill the stem hole.

Peter

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From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> on 

behalf of Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>

Sent: March 4, 2016 3:53 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE

...Go with the latter.  Besides - to drill a hole in glass for the clock 

time

stem setter would be really delicate AND time con$uming for indu$try if 

the

crystal were glass.  So your clock face is plastic.

Did you look at the post I sent you a few days ago?

"Oh - - - If all else fails - look at this:"
http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/dino-era-206-246/11489-dino-diy-repairing-
clock.html

Onward

DOUG

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 01:00:31 -0800
From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "'Peter Rychel'" <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE
Message-ID: <000001d176bd$78a3c3f0$69eb4bd0$@dock.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Peter - what a GREAT watch parts site.  Thank you.
Aint this list grand or what?
DOUG

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Rychel [mailto:dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 12:01 AM
To: Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE

Actually, glass drills are no problem to get... Here's a huge assortment 

on

Amazon, but I bet you could find one at your local hardware store:

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aglass%20drill%20bits

As for the glass, I don't remember what size it is, but watchmakers may 

have

one (called "crystals"):

http://www.esslinger.com/watch-crystals/

My watch that I wear for work got damaged because I accidentally hit the
corner and the mineral crystal busted... I bought a plastic one from
Esslinger, along with the installation tool (a multi-jawed clamp which
squeezes the crystal to a smaller diameter) and replaced it myself - very
easy! In the case of the Ferrari clock, all that would be needed is a flat
crystal the correct size and drill the stem hole.

Peter

________________________________________
From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> on
behalf of Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
Sent: March 4, 2016 3:53 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Foggy glass clock: FINALE

...Go with the latter.  Besides - to drill a hole in glass for the clock

time stem setter would be really delicate AND time con$uming for indu$try 

if

the crystal were glass.  So your clock face is plastic.

Did you look at the post I sent you a few days ago?

"Oh - - - If all else fails - look at this:"
http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/dino-era-206-246/11489-dino-diy-repairing-
clock.html

Onward

DOUG

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