512BB? The one with 27 (seemingly) Weber carburetors? If so – I believe it would have had the 930 beat for sound. Fell in love with that car at the factory in ’79. The only car I ever saw in Italy with a “300” bumper sticker. Wazzat I asked our tour fellow – oh that? That’s the max speed they can go on the Autostrada. Some quick math this way and that way - - - hmmm, about 190 mph. Cool I said in 1979 speak. Then Tibor and I walked across the street to the empty Cavallino Pizzeria - - - well before it become a 5 star restaurant with 10 star prices. Ach – those were the days DOUG From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Peter Pless
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 3:32 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Re Air cooled Don’t ask me! Because they were both the supercars of their day? Different ways of achieving the same thing. From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2016 7:52 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Re Air cooled Why are we even comparing a turbo car to a non turbo car? On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote: I owned a properly set up 3.3 930 and even better set up 512BB at the same time in the 90s and can assure you that the former certainly was superior in performance to the latter in every way apart from a top gear roll on! I was also 3 seconds a lap faster in the 930 than the BB at Phillip Island and didn’t have to worry about brake fade, which was a significant issue with the BB. Does that take anything away from a BB?? No way! I’m just correcting your error J From: LSJ via Ferrari [mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com]
Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2016 3:59 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Re Air cooled While I agree on the merits of oil cooling and the historical significance of the 930, it did not blow away a properly setup and tuned 512BB.
Air cooled may be technically obsolete, but Porsche made the most of it. If you have ever driven a 79 930 turbo you would know it blew away anything Ferrari made at the time. I love my 79 308 GTS, but I would gladly trade it for an unmolested example of a 930 and I wouldn't have to worry about coolant corrosion, changing the water pump, hoses, or any of the other stuff (belts) that degrades over ( a short) time.
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 08:14:47 -0400
From: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
To: George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Dad's E-Type
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Here is one for you
The Boeing 727 had a fly away kit in the rear cargo compartment
With all kinds of parts
Spare generators and the like
Clyde Romero
If you have no enemies
You have no character !
In Victory you deserve Champagne
In Defeat You Need It!
If you obey all the rules
You miss all the fun !
Be well,do good work,and keep in touch
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 7:34 AM, George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's true. When Dad restored the car, he (as an engineer himself) fixed all the stuff that had been poorly engineered. He even carries spare coil, points, and fuel pump in the boot, but has only pulled them out for a roadside fix on someone else's car! ;-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> gp
>
> ________________________________________
>
> George, "It's in great condition and is exceptionally well maintained - in
> 22 years, the car's never had a failure. Thanks."
>
> Hard to believe.
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 13:41:10 +0100
From: francis newman <francis [at] fntn.co.uk>
To: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
Cc: francis newman <francis.newman [at] fntn.co.uk>, The FerrariList
<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lead time on a new Ferrari
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Not so Clyde
We have plenty opf Calis on track at FOC GB track days.
Fraancis
> On 15 Apr 2016, at 11:57, clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com wrote:
>
> The California is a girl car
> It was Ferraris meager attempt at making a car for the softer side
> What ever that is
> Just like the 355 spyder was
> Pure and simple
> If you like wearing pink shirts and lime green shorts and mauve handkerchiefs
> You've arrived
> In your Ferrari no less
> You will never see a California at a track event
> Ever!
> Sorry if I offended anyone
> But it is what it is !
> I wouldn't be surprised if the car doesn't have a baby seat option !
> I mean really !
>
>
> In victory you deserve Champagne
> In defeat you need it!
>
>
>
> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>
> If you follow all the rules
> You miss all the fun!
>
> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>
> Clyde Romero
>
>
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> On Apr 15, 2016, at 12:57 AM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's not surprising that the lead time is that quick, because the California is an old model - been in production since 2008 and probably is the bulk of production at the factory. Everybody is tripping over themselves to get into a 488 NOW. I wouldn't be surprised if the lead time on a regular F12 is also quick too.
>>
>> The options is where the factory makes their profit. It's atrocious what they charge for some of the items. Kudos to your friend for skipping all of the carbon trinkets.
>>
>> I drove a California when they first came out. I like the car as it's a great all-rounder. Performance on the STREET is mind-blowing, the comfort of a hard-top when you need it and still a proper convertible. Roomy, comfortable. The latest styling is the best out of the series.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> on behalf of Britt2Asa via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Sent: April 14, 2016 12:15 PM
>> To: PeterGT4
>> Cc: The FerrariList
>> Subject: [Ferrari] Lead time on a new Ferrari
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Thought you may find this interesting. Some good friends of mine here in the Midlands who are long term members of the FOC and the area group I run were looking for another Ferrari. They race a 308 and use to race a 355 in the club hill climb championship so they know their cars and know how to drive. Since they own everything from the Ferraris to a Triumph TR8, a Macan and a special you would never have heard of, they were thinking "Grand Tourer" and "California". Now if you haven't driven a California, it really is a great practical GT and really is fast as hell. Wanting something new they were looking for a 2-3 year old California at the Ferrari Dealership in Birmingham (Greypauls). Brian actually wanted a base car with just shields and adjustable suspension but all the used cars at Greypauls were loaded with tons of options ?30,000 wasn't unusual. Brian found the asking prices for these cars much to high and the salesman at Greypaul asked if they had considered a new Ferrrai?
>>
>> Well who wouldn't like to own a factory new Ferrari just once in your life? Basically Brian ordered a new California and was quoted an 8 week delivery time. It arrived this week right on time. The car is a base California with only the two options plus constructing seat stitching. The cost of the new car was far less than the used models loaded with carbon fibre at the same dealer.
>>
>> Obviously this is a RHD UK market car but I was surprised the lead time was less than for the new 5 series I ordered from BMW (10 weeks)! The lead time for the 488 is still 2+ years here in the UK for what it's worth.....
>>
>> At our next FOC meeting we will toast Brian's new California. I suspect it will do around 10k per year despite all the other cars he owns. For travels to Le Mans and the Continent it's going to be a great option.....
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> BR in the UK
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 08:50:57 -0400
From: "clyde romero" <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
To: "'francis newman'" <francis [at] fntn.co.uk>
Cc: "'francis newman'" <francis.newman [at] fntn.co.uk>, "'The
FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lead time on a new Ferrari
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Hey boss
How goes it over there?
You going to vote to get of the EC?
Stay warm and safe over there
Have a pint of bitters and bag a crisps for me !
Cheers
Clyde
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From: francis newman [mailto:francis [at] fntn.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:41 AM
To: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
Cc: francis newman <francis.newman [at] fntn.co.uk>; The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lead time on a new Ferrari
Not so Clyde
We have plenty opf Calis on track at FOC GB track days.
Fraancis
> On 15 Apr 2016, at 11:57, clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com wrote:
>
> The California is a girl car
> It was Ferraris meager attempt at making a car for the softer side
> What ever that is Just like the 355 spyder was Pure and simple If you
> like wearing pink shirts and lime green shorts and mauve handkerchiefs
> You've arrived In your Ferrari no less You will never see a California
> at a track event Ever!
> Sorry if I offended anyone
> But it is what it is !
> I wouldn't be surprised if the car doesn't have a baby seat option !
> I mean really !
>
>
> In victory you deserve Champagne
> In defeat you need it!
>
>
>
> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>
> If you follow all the rules
> You miss all the fun!
>
> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>
> Clyde Romero
>
>
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> On Apr 15, 2016, at 12:57 AM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's not surprising that the lead time is that quick, because the California is an old model - been in production since 2008 and probably is the bulk of production at the factory. Everybody is tripping over themselves to get into a 488 NOW. I wouldn't be surprised if the lead time on a regular F12 is also quick too.
>>
>> The options is where the factory makes their profit. It's atrocious what they charge for some of the items. Kudos to your friend for skipping all of the carbon trinkets.
>>
>> I drove a California when they first came out. I like the car as it's a great all-rounder. Performance on the STREET is mind-blowing, the comfort of a hard-top when you need it and still a proper convertible. Roomy, comfortable. The latest styling is the best out of the series.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ferrari
>> <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> on behalf of
>> Britt2Asa via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Sent: April 14, 2016 12:15 PM
>> To: PeterGT4
>> Cc: The FerrariList
>> Subject: [Ferrari] Lead time on a new Ferrari
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Thought you may find this interesting. Some good friends of mine here in the Midlands who are long term members of the FOC and the area group I run were looking for another Ferrari. They race a 308 and use to race a 355 in the club hill climb championship so they know their cars and know how to drive. Since they own everything from the Ferraris to a Triumph TR8, a Macan and a special you would never have heard of, they were thinking "Grand Tourer" and "California". Now if you haven't driven a California, it really is a great practical GT and really is fast as hell. Wanting something new they were looking for a 2-3 year old California at the Ferrari Dealership in Birmingham (Greypauls). Brian actually wanted a base car with just shields and adjustable suspension but all the used cars at Greypauls were loaded with tons of options ?30,000 wasn't unusual. Brian found the asking prices for these cars much to high and the salesman at Greypaul asked if they had considered a new Ferrrai?
>>
>> Well who wouldn't like to own a factory new Ferrari just once in your life? Basically Brian ordered a new California and was quoted an 8 week delivery time. It arrived this week right on time. The car is a base California with only the two options plus constructing seat stitching. The cost of the new car was far less than the used models loaded with carbon fibre at the same dealer.
>>
>> Obviously this is a RHD UK market car but I was surprised the lead time was less than for the new 5 series I ordered from BMW (10 weeks)! The lead time for the 488 is still 2+ years here in the UK for what it's worth.....
>>
>> At our next FOC meeting we will toast Brian's new California. I suspect it will do around 10k per year despite all the other cars he owns. For travels to Le Mans and the Continent it's going to be a great option.....
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> BR in the UK
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:04:05 -0400
From: Larry Bard <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>
To: clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
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Clyde,
As a 512TR owner who also has -- and loves -- an air cooled Porsche (normally aspirated 993, used as both daily driver and track events), I wonder how you would classify me. (But maybe it's not so difficult, since I purchased it, used, long ago, not for anything remotely resembling "6 figures".)
Regards,
Larry
P.S. Too late for me not to breed.
From: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:36:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
The Porsche crowd is going stupid over
Now get this
AIR COOLED CARS
Yes Virginia you got it right
Shows you were that brain trust is
These are the same people who brought you the space shuttle challenger accident
There's no problem just launch it !!!!!
AIR COOLED
Why not just go back to a 3 on the column ?
It just amazing how someone would throw 6 figures at a car and be some dumb about it
The worst part is that these people BREED !
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:10:43 -0400
From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: "clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com" <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lead time on a new Ferrari
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Ultimate trophy wife car.
FG
On Friday, April 15, 2016, <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> The California is a girl car
> It was Ferraris meager attempt at making a car for the softer side
> What ever that is
> Just like the 355 spyder was
> Pure and simple
> If you like wearing pink shirts and lime green shorts and mauve
> handkerchiefs
> You've arrived
> In your Ferrari no less
> You will never see a California at a track event
> Ever!
> Sorry if I offended anyone
> But it is what it is !
> I wouldn't be surprised if the car doesn't have a baby seat option !
> I mean really !
>
>
> In victory you deserve Champagne
> In defeat you need it!
>
>
>
> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>
> If you follow all the rules
> You miss all the fun!
>
> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>
> Clyde Romero
>
>
> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail ( including attachments ) is covered
> by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U. S. C., Sections
> 2510-2521, and is intended only for the persons or entity to which it is
> addressed, and may contain confidential or privileged material. Any
> unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, copying, forwarding or
> distribution is prohibited.
> This email transmission, and any documents, files or previous email
> messages attached to it, may contain confidential information that is
> priviledged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person
> responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby
> notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the
> information containes in or attached to this message is STRICTLY
> PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please
> immediately notify us by reply e-mail at Clyde.romerof4 [at] gmail.com
> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Clyde.romerof4 [at] gmail.com');> or by
> telephone at (678 6419932)and destroy the original transmission and its
> attachments without reading them or saving them to disk.
>
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 12:57 AM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com
> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> It's not surprising that the lead time is that quick, because the
> California is an old model - been in production since 2008 and probably is
> the bulk of production at the factory. Everybody is tripping over
> themselves to get into a 488 NOW. I wouldn't be surprised if the lead time
> on a regular F12 is also quick too.
>
> The options is where the factory makes their profit. It's atrocious what
> they charge for some of the items. Kudos to your friend for skipping all of
> the carbon trinkets.
>
> I drove a California when they first came out. I like the car as it's a
> great all-rounder. Performance on the STREET is mind-blowing, the comfort
> of a hard-top when you need it and still a proper convertible. Roomy,
> comfortable. The latest styling is the best out of the series.
>
> Peter
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com
> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ferrari-bounces%2Bdino308gt4%5Cx3dhotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com');>>
> on behalf of Britt2Asa via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com');>>
> Sent: April 14, 2016 12:15 PM
> To: PeterGT4
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] Lead time on a new Ferrari
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Thought you may find this interesting. Some good friends of mine here in
> the Midlands who are long term members of the FOC and the area group I run
> were looking for another Ferrari. They race a 308 and use to race a 355 in
> the club hill climb championship so they know their cars and know how to
> drive. Since they own everything from the Ferraris to a Triumph TR8, a
> Macan and a special you would never have heard of, they were thinking
> "Grand Tourer" and "California". Now if you haven't driven a California, it
> really is a great practical GT and really is fast as hell. Wanting
> something new they were looking for a 2-3 year old California at the
> Ferrari Dealership in Birmingham (Greypauls). Brian actually wanted a base
> car with just shields and adjustable suspension but all the used cars at
> Greypauls were loaded with tons of options ?30,000 wasn't unusual. Brian
> found the asking prices for these cars much to high and the salesman at
> Greypaul asked if they had considered a new Ferrrai?
>
> Well who wouldn't like to own a factory new Ferrari just once in your
> life? Basically Brian ordered a new California and was quoted an 8 week
> delivery time. It arrived this week right on time. The car is a base
> California with only the two options plus constructing seat stitching. The
> cost of the new car was far less than the used models loaded with carbon
> fibre at the same dealer.
>
> Obviously this is a RHD UK market car but I was surprised the lead time
> was less than for the new 5 series I ordered from BMW (10 weeks)! The lead
> time for the 488 is still 2+ years here in the UK for what it's worth.....
>
> At our next FOC meeting we will toast Brian's new California. I suspect it
> will do around 10k per year despite all the other cars he owns. For travels
> to Le Mans and the Continent it's going to be a great option.....
>
> Regards
>
> BR in the UK
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 08:22:38 -0700
From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "'Larry Bard'" <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>
Cc: "'Ferrarilist'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
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Air Cooled engines - who in their right mind would do something like that?
Ohhhhhhh, how about Grumman's Bearcat? Douglas' DC3, 4 5,6 or Lockheed's
Connie's? And the B-24's. 25s, 29's?
Actually, Porsche technically classifies their engines as 'oil cooled.'
The ONE thing I had to get used to when we first got our 308GTS was the
smell of hot water. That was after I burped the radiator. Frightening
until you get used to the routine. But then there was the time . . . .
On one of the first days after it was delivered (From MN to CA) - my
daughter and I went out to shoot thru (we're hot) a Taco Bell. I had burped
the system and to do a good job released the water reservoir cap, above the
rear headers, a bit. You see where this is going? Ayep - a few miles from
home I notice steam on the back window - what th???? Sure enough, the cap
is still on but I had cross threaded it. %*&*%^&^% so I get a rag, with the
thot of back off a half notch and rethread it correctly and tightly. One
half click to the left and all hell break loose!
Not ONLY does it boil over (no scalds) but the coolant boils down on the
exhaust headers and CATCHES ON FIRE - oh CRAP. Yeah, I blew the fire out
nearly hyperventilating and learned - take a fire extinguisher. This was
1996. That was ALSO the year I learned one can drive an old Ferrari if they
remember two words: "cell" "Phone."
Onward.
DOUG
997 Carrera S and the GTS and some other stuff
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Bard
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 7:04 AM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
Clyde,
As a 512TR owner who also has -- and loves -- an air cooled Porsche
(normally aspirated 993, used as both daily driver and track events), I
wonder how you would classify me. (But maybe it's not so difficult, since
I purchased it, used, long ago, not for anything remotely resembling "6
figures".)
Regards,
Larry
P.S. Too late for me not to breed.
From: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com <mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:36:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com <mailto:larrybard [at] hotmail.com>
The Porsche crowd is going stupid over
Now get this
AIR COOLED CARS
Yes Virginia you got it right
Shows you were that brain trust is
These are the same people who brought you the space shuttle challenger
accident
There's no problem just launch it !!!!!
AIR COOLED
Why not just go back to a 3 on the column ?
It just amazing how someone would throw 6 figures at a car and be some dumb
about it
The worst part is that these people BREED !
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 11:44:35 -0400
From: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
To: Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
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Wow
How enlightening
Thanks for the throw back into 40's
By the way Grumman, Lockheed and Douglas didn't make engines
Pratt and Whitney, Lycoming among others did !
Next time you fly ( or maybe you travel by covered wagon )
See if you find any reciprocating engines on your airliner!
Air cooled no less
And yes Popeye they made water cooled reciprocating engines there was one in every
P-51 made!
And for the record I am an A&P mechanic among other things
So I know just a little about round motors carbs and such
If nostalgia is what your looking for
Take the A/C out buy a black and white TV
Put a George Wallace for president sign in your front yard
And you there!
Most of us like things that work and that have a mean time between failure
Longer than there tongue !
As for the 512 owner
Who owns an air cooled car
At least he knows the difference between
Excellence and a VW!
Gotta go
In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!
Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
If you follow all the rules
You miss all the fun!
If you have no enemies, you have no character !
Clyde Romero
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> On Apr 15, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>
> Air Cooled engines ? who in their right mind would do something like that? Ohhhhhhh, how about Grumman?s Bearcat? Douglas? DC3, 4 5,6 or Lockheed?s Connie?s? And the B-24?s. 25s, 29?s?
>
> Actually, Porsche technically classifies their engines as ?oil cooled.?
>
> The ONE thing I had to get used to when we first got our 308GTS was the smell of hot water. That was after I burped the radiator. Frightening until you get used to the routine. But then there was the time . . . .
>
> On one of the first days after it was delivered (From MN to CA) ? my daughter and I went out to shoot thru (we?re hot) a Taco Bell. I had burped the system and to do a good job released the water reservoir cap, above the rear headers, a bit. You see where this is going? Ayep ? a few miles from home I notice steam on the back window - what th???? Sure enough, the cap is still on but I had cross threaded it. %*&*%^&^% so I get a rag, with the thot of back off a half notch and rethread it correctly and tightly. One half click to the left and all hell break loose!
>
> Not ONLY does it boil over (no scalds) but the coolant boils down on the exhaust headers and CATCHES ON FIRE ? oh CRAP. Yeah, I blew the fire out nearly hyperventilating and learned ? take a fire extinguisher. This was 1996. That was ALSO the year I learned one can drive an old Ferrari if they remember two words: ?cell? ?Phone.?
>
> Onward.
>
> DOUG
> 997 Carrera S and the GTS and some other stuff
>
> From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bard
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 7:04 AM
> To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: Ferrarilist <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
>
> Clyde,
>
> As a 512TR owner who also has -- and loves -- an air cooled Porsche (normally aspirated 993, used as both daily driver and track events), I wonder how you would classify me. (But maybe it's not so difficult, since I purchased it, used, long ago, not for anything remotely resembling "6 figures".)
>
> Regards,
> Larry
>
> P.S. Too late for me not to breed.
>
> From: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:36:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 qv prices in latest Cavalino
> CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
>
> The Porsche crowd is going stupid over
> Now get this
> AIR COOLED CARS
> Yes Virginia you got it right
>
> Shows you were that brain trust is
> These are the same people who brought you the space shuttle challenger accident
> There's no problem just launch it !!!!!
> AIR COOLED
> Why not just go back to a 3 on the column ?
>
> It just amazing how someone would throw 6 figures at a car and be some dumb about it
> The worst part is that these people BREED !
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