Ferrari Mailing List: Re: GM products, was: Re: 1978 GTS Rear Brake Caliper question

[Britt2asa (britt2asa]

Guys

Porsche ( or GM) doesn't engineer any door panels. They make a design and then shop it out to one of the few  suppliers that can handle the volume and say " our cost price must be this". It then gets made to that price. End of story.

They may engineer engines and chassis in house but not interior trim. Ferrari did last time I was there but almost nobody but the tiny manufacturers are making or engineering interior trim. It jut get designed and made to the price they are told.

Regards

BR in Stockholm

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On 27 Sep 2017, at 00:00, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

GP, join us in 2001 please!

Would you take a floppy door panel or a 911 GT3 engine replacement every 5k miles?

Is the Porsche engineered better?

Their door panels probably are...

On Sep 26, 2017, at 11:04, George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

I find Charles' comments interesting, but won't let my wife read them (she's a Chevy gal from way back).  She's constantly PO'd that I won't buy her a Chevy, even though her old Monte Carlo Z34 (1998 MY) was still in great shape and going strong at 204K miles when we sold it a decade or so back.

To me, Chevy has always been a maker of pretty darn good engines - but the rest of the car sucked.  A very good friend has a '96 'Vette with a great LT4 engine, but also with a floppy inner driver's side door panel.  Even my former POS Triumph Spitfire (RIP), at almost *20 YEARS* older than the 'Vette, didn't have a floppy door panel.  WTF Chevy???

So I'm curious to see how Charles' CTS-V holds up over time, WRT build quality.  I suspect the engine will be like the energizer bunny....

And in that vein, I'll be happy to hear of *UNRESTORED* examples of vintage GM products that are as good as the day they first rolled out of the showroom.  I'll start - her Monte Carlo was darn close, even the leather upholstery was just broken in (almost 10 years and, as mentioned above, 204K miles).  Wondering if that's the exception or now the rule?

But as long as she uses *MY* good credit to buy a car, I still get a say in what that car is.  😉

gp

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From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>

I find it surprisingly hard to argue. I never in my life thought I?d want a Camaro, but the ZL1 1LE is absolutely a phenomenally developed car all around and I?d love to have one as a track car.

Felt the same way a couple of years ago ? would never have pictured owning a Cadillac, but my CTS-V 6MT wagon has been huge fun and nearly zero trouble.

It will be years before my track driving talent matches the capabilities of our C7 Z06 Corvette.

GM praise always used to be preceded by the phrase ?For the money?? but that?s just not the case anymore. World class in everything except maybe interior materials, and they?re just not far enough off to dissuade me from GM any more.

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