Igloo White missions on the HO CHI Minh trail Ah yes Clyde Romero
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Six hundred knots on the deck is approaching the speed of
sound; we called it the speed of heat. The vortices, called wing vortices,
ie, the white condensation coming off the wing tips, will start coming up the
fuselage as one approaches the mach. You may recall seeing pictures of
Navy F-14s doing this while buzzing Carriers.
My Squadron, the 25th Tac Fighter Squadron at Ubon Thailand,
had a special low level mission, putting in tactical ground sensors in the high
threat areas. So, we were "running in the weeds" most of the time.
We were fairly safe running in at 575-625 knots at 200 ft (from AAA). The
problem there, is bird strikes or sneezing. We had to slow down to 500 and
pull up to 500 ft to drop the sensors! It was really exciting to watch
yourself or your wingman being engulfed by the vortices. Remind me later
to tell you guys about the time we were doing this and my wingman hit a
tree!
Luke
600 knots is 10 miles a minute
In level terrain at 20 feet that would a daunting task for even the most
skilled crew
The better part of my military flying has been below 500’ day/night in all
kinds of weather
Flying at 20’ takes and enormous amount of concentrated effort in peace
time
During war you would most likely not survive the first SAM break or worse
high tension line or any of the numerous things that stick up out of the
ground
And thats if it’s level terrain
If it’s rolling hills with foliage all I can say is that I could not do
it
At 100’ in a dynamic combat environment it would take all I had not to hit
the ground
And that’s if the visibility was good
And like I said I have flown the better part of my military flying below
500
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Even
at 20 feet at 600 mph?
Just
wondering
DOUG
You would only overfly an active SAM site one time
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SA-8?
Nope. Wazzat?
But
just thinking about it – would be cool break sound barrier as low as you
could over known SAM sites. Might even rattle Jane Fonda – if she was
there.
DOUG
Did any of you notice the instrumentation on the ground
in the picture?
We were doing test against
the SA-8
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Ok what’s a Joshua
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My college roommate's dad told stories of looking
up at Joshua trees while stationed at Edwards...
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International
Harvester low level.
DOUG
weed
wacking!
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"I have
looked up at Stuckey’s signs" now there is a Clyde
classic.
(had to
go to my ACM flash cards for the
"shackle")
I used
to love to "hold" a shockwave on the deck. Just aft of the
ailerons was
controllable.
Saw the
Navy F111B on the ground at NAS Oceana once. Not
impressed.
Kind of
the Bradley fighting vehicle of the sky. Tried to do too
much with one airframe. Designed by committee and I'm
not talking Fighter Mafia.
I saw
cockpit footage of a "bleed-air blimp" trap on a carrier....
now there was some flying! Not sure it would have
survived a Bolter and heard it was lucky he caught 2
wires!
I have
looked up at Stuckey’s signs on low levels in Kansas and
Nebraska
A lot of
those levels were right over interstates going east/west out
there between the medians
I
remember once when I was very
aggressive
And very
young , I thought I could fly under an interstate over pass
!
I was
maybe 10’ off the deck doing 480 ground speed ( that’s a mile
every 6 seconds for you civilians) with a great WSO and saw it on
the horizon
Decided
better not and I am here because of
it
I could
do a shackle at 100’ and not even think about it when I was in my
prime!
Did you
ever see the F-111B model that the navy tested on the
boat?
There is
a picture of it somewhere
When Mac
was trying to make the F-111 an
I would
have loved to see that trap!
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I have
a great friend who lost her dad when they were testing TF on a
B52 on the east coast... Elephant
Mountain.
Yes a
TF failure could mean death at night
Phantom
was hand flown along with the
A-6
The
F-111 was on autopilot and it was
mandatory!
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Sounds
crazy. There must have been close-calls, or
worse?
From:
Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Sent:
April 8, 2018 3:22 AM
To: Peter Rychel
Cc:
The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A real low
level
During
training you flew 480 knots ground speed initially
IP to
target 540 ground speed
Egress
depending on the threat 600 to
supersonic
I flew
Reconnaissance Phantoms the only defense you had was speed and
tactics
Now if
you can believe this we used to do that video at night in the
mountains
It’s
called Terrain Following only us the the F-111 and the A-6 could
do that at night in the rocks as we used to call
it.
It was
fun but dangerous a night TF ride in the Appalachian Mountains
was not for the weak of heart !
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Awesome,
thanks for sharing that! I couldn’t help but crank my head
side-to-side as he was doing those banking
turns.
What
kind of speeds are we looking at in this segment? He was
flying over populated areas, which I’m sure must have startled
the people below.
I
know the subject was brought up a week or so ago, but man,
having your own fighter jet just to play around would be
incredibly thrilling.
They
mentioned the Italian’s training flights in Goose Bay, Canada.
My uncle worked for nearly all of his life at Canadair and
started his career working on the Sabre, finishing up with the
Challenger business jet when he retired. Did many jobs, but
for the most part was a foreman. He was sent up back in the
‘80s to Cold Lake, Alberta... He was never allowed to talk
about it! Probably had something to do with the “Peanut”
(CL-227 Sentinel). His only remarks was that it was too damn
cold (I suppose he never clued into the name of the
place).
Sent
from Mail for Windows
10
Down
there on a first name basis with the gophers at 600kts
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