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But what if it's not one car? You are assuming
that only one Ferrari sells per week or month at auction. Have
you followed the sale results of the sales at the factory in
Maranello? Or at Mecum? or Barrett? Multiple Enzos (as an
example) have been selling monthly. 308/328 sales are well documented
and fairly level per condition - exceptional low mileage cars
bringing over $100k. That's enough to get a good read. You asked
about why there isn't a database of sales, well there is.
Subscribe to Sports Car Market and scroll through their database
of sales. There are hundreds of examples, depending on the
model.
The Porsche market is an entirely different subject,
but the slant nose cars were factory cars. There were some
fiberglass aftermarket kits and they don't hold value as well.
But real steel cars are still highly valuable and sought after
in the market. Not sure how TTO affects value - if all cars that
drove poorly were deemed non-valuable and non-collectible most
cars from the 1960's back to the 1800's would have been
crushed. It's also very simple to fix TTO by increasing airflow
and output (exhaust). The early turbos were choked by early
emissions equip. Take that off and they are very smooth with no
turbo lag. It's easy to claim I don't know the market, but you
are just discounting what I post, you aren't giving any actual
data or examples to disprove the market. Insulting buyers and
saying cars drive poorly when stock isn't empirical info. But
with a shoe sized IQ it's hard fro me to understand things
sometimes. lol
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On 12/8/18 7:39 AM, Clarence Romero Jr.
wrote:
You don’t know the Ferrari market Brian
And as I said earlier
One auction on a car doesn’t make the market
It might for you so you can hype it up to some poor
uninformed buyer with deep pockets and shoe size IQ
But hey that’s what you live for
Just look at the P car market
Guys paying top bucks for an air cooled POS that has a major
handling problem called trailing throttle oversteer
But you can’t fix stupid Brian
I remember the hype of the Guard Red Slope nose P car being
all that
Guys modifying there cars
Please
The P car crowd is the worst only followed by the MCB crowd !
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So let me get thus straight ... you're
telling me that FML is BS and totally out of touch with
the market, but that I don't know the market because I
don't read FML? It's seems that I'm better off not
reading worthless info and paying attention to actual
sales and transactions ...
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On 12/6/18 8:59 PM, Clarence
Romero Jr. wrote:
Sorry Brian
The limited auction market isn’t the market
Maybe for you
But not the average Joe
The Ferrari market has always been about hype
And the fact you never opened a FML tells me you know
very little about the Ferrari market!
Because that’s where the hype is big time!
But that’s ok
Because you really are a P car guy
And everyone has there thing as they say
Too many guys think the FML is the gospel until they
find out it’s just a
Seventh Day Adventist knocking at there door!
Gotta go
Take care and I have helped too many on this list
both sell and by there dream car at realistic prices
Not the ones you see in the paper!
Leads tally one bandit right 2 o clock high, burners
now !
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I've never opened a FML ... but
you're talking two different markets - the
wholesale market and the retail market. The
auction prices do represent the retail market.
The best of the best. The cars you or I may
sell that were owned personally (private parry
retail) will fall below that. The dealers offer
wholesale, put in money for reconditioning and
service, then sell somewhere between private
party retail and auction retail. The auction
prices may be idiots with money, but it's the
market. Which is the trading of cars for
money. Do you think a McLaren F1 will sell
under $15M in any transaction (other than
wholesale or a car with bad history) now that
one hit that mark last summer? That set the
market. What about the black Ferrari GTO that
sold for $22M more in a private party
transaction (to David MacNeil) than the most
recent GTO at auction (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/27/most-expensive-car-ever-sold-at-auction-fetches-48-million.html)?
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On 12/6/18 6:14 PM,
Clarence Romero Jr. wrote:
Brian
Brian
Brian
Most recently and I know he monitors this
list I helped a lister sell his beautiful 308
with Daytona seats and improved a/c system at a
price no where near the asking prices in the
FML
In fact it was at least 30k away from those
dream boat prices you read in the yellow shit
rag!
The market is dropping son
The 550 crowd is starting to feel the pain
Like I’ve always said if you want to know
what your car is worth
Take it to a dealer
Because that’s the real price
The auction prices are idiots with money
They are suicide blondes, dyed by their own
hand!
But that’s not the market
There is still some fools thinking he can get
280K for a 575 6spd
Along with the dolts thinking superamericas
are all that!
Keep in mind the 355 spyder crowd thought the
same thing
Remember that bubble?
Lest not forget the 360 spyder crowd as well
Idiots with money will never learn
But hey
It is what it is
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308 / 328 market is
higher than it was when they were new!
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On 12/6/18 4:47
PM, Clarence Romero Jr. wrote:
I hope you’re right
I just don’t see many people buying
older Ferrari cars
In my opinion the 308/328/348 is
dead
The 355 market is surely dead and the
a/c works on those cars!
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I'll
agree with Peter here...
In 5 years the dealerships
will be so busy doing warranty
work they won't have time to
fix the stuff already sold.
The "good" independents will
flourish.
The
independents will
survive keeping
the older models
going.
Peter
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15
years
This
is going to kill
the independent
Ferrari shops
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