Garage Coatings
From: Bart Denys (corazonfixgmail.com)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 07:33:11 -0700 (PDT)
Did the epoxy thing before. Does not hold up to car traffic well.
Did my 30x80 garage with “Ninja Coatings”
I believe it is 3 stage polyurethane. They grind the top level of concrete to 
create a porous surface for better anchoring. Base cost, chips, and top coat. 
They can make it from rough to smooth. The garage entrance is a little tougher 
for the first 3 feet to make it less slippery.

No financial interest, just have 3 garages and 2 outside patios covered with it.

Bart

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 10:53:53 +0000
> From: George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com>
> To: "ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] My first check engine light on the 575 (Charles
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> Charles,
> 
> Watched at the 3:56 point, and for another minute or two.  In what sane world 
> does a battery cost 3 *THOUSAND* dollars????  Doesn't this, by default, 
> negate your "relative bargain" statement?
> 
> The fact that I can't afford these modern electronic nightmares aside, even 
> if I could, never in a million years would I.  At least not for my toy car.  
> I always admire your (and other listers') enthusiasm, but perhaps even more, 
> I admire your tenacity in putting up with all of that.  Wow.
> 
> ?
> 
> gp
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com>
> 
> How about battery goes dead, you have to break your window? I?ve been 
> researching McLarens since they?re a relative bargain. I?ve been looking 
> mostly at the 650S, but apparently on the MP4-12C, when the battery dies, the 
> last thing it does is lower the window a hair so you can open the dihedryl 
> doors with a special key to get in to charge things. If that malfunctions, 
> you have to break the window to open the door. Check out this video. Skip to 
> 3:56 if you?re short on time:
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> From: George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com>
> To: "ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 575 CEL (Clarence Romero Jr.)
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> Clyde,
> 
> Kinda thinking Rob's point may have been missed.  Pretty sure he knows all 
> about your TR.  Also pretty sure his two Ferrari's never throw CELs because 
> the gas cap was not tightened.  And his seats work (albeit not electrically).
> 
> As with Charles, I really do admire your tenacity and ability to get your 
> cars "right" and "reliable", but again, wow.  Hearing all these stories just 
> further confirms my loss of interest in modern cars (which, to me, seem so 
> much more like video games than actual cars, but what do I know....  and yes, 
> I never thought I'd being saying *THAT*!!  ? ).
> 
> "Or," if I may quote our friend Dennis, "I could be completely wrong..."  ;-)
> 
> gp
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
> To: Robert Garven <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
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> Mr Gaven
> I own one already a 93 512 TR so there !
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> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 06:09:05 -0500
> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> To: George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] My first check engine light on the 575 (Charles
>    Perry)
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> $3k for a battery is cheap.  If you?re building space hardware.
> 
>> On May 29, 2019, at 5:53 AM, George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Charles,
>> 
>> Watched at the 3:56 point, and for another minute or two.  In what sane 
>> world does a battery cost 3 *THOUSAND* dollars????  Doesn't this, by 
>> default, negate your "relative bargain" statement?
>> 
>> The fact that I can't afford these modern electronic nightmares aside, even 
>> if I could, never in a million years would I.  At least not for my toy car.  
>> I always admire your (and other listers') enthusiasm, but perhaps even more, 
>> I admire your tenacity in putting up with all of that.  Wow.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> gp
>> 
>> From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com <mailto:charles [at] 
>> carolinasound.com>>
>> 
>> How about battery goes dead, you have to break your window? I?ve been 
>> researching McLarens since they?re a relative bargain. I?ve been looking 
>> mostly at the 650S, but apparently on the MP4-12C, when the battery dies, 
>> the last thing it does is lower the window a hair so you can open the 
>> dihedryl doors with a special key to get in to charge things. If that 
>> malfunctions, you have to break the window to open the door. Check out this 
>> video. Skip to 3:56 if you?re short on time:
>>                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znSziiek0j8 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znSziiek0j8>
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> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 07:41:30 -0400
> From: Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
> To: Robert Garven <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NO Content Seattle,
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> When you say your old band, do you mean the band you used to play in, or
> that the band is a bunch of old dudes?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> -matt
> '85 308
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>> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:03 PM Robert Garven <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I posted my old band is playing in Seattle Thusrday?  Not sure if anyone
>> got it, as added a poster attachment.
>> It will be our only NW performance ever, as we are old and my car(s) are
>> neglected. I wanted to see the city
>> but we fly in play and fly out??..
>> 
>> next stop Germany, Brazil, Finland??.for some reason we arent playing
>> Italy?
>> 
>> 
>> Rob
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> From: Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Ferrari] Garage Floor Solutions
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> All,
> 
> I'm about to move into a new (well, not brand new) house with a 20'x31'
> oversized 2 car garage. This is finally my first place where I'll have the
> place to store my toys and have room to work on them. Please discuss
> recommendations for garage floor coatings.
> 
> I'm leaning towards epoxy because while I could do tiles, the cars WILL
> leak (1985 Ferrari and 1939 Rolls-Royce are NOT oil tight, in fact the
> Bijur system on the Rolls is designed to "leak"). I imagine the tiles will
> leak through and "someday" that entire mess will still be on the concrete
> beneath.
> 
> I'll probably lean towards having a professional do the prep and
> application because I want to get this done right the first time.
> 
> Thoughts? References? I do know how to Google, so I'm really just looking
> for your personal recommendations.
> 
> Thanks
> -matt
> '85 308
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> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 08:13:47 -0500
> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> To: Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Garage Floor Solutions
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> I put down epoxy on the old garage about 10 years ago.  Followed all of the
> prep instructions on the side of the tin to the letter.  Looked solid for
> about 5 years.  It is lifting in spots where hot tires sit on it, but I can
> still wipe up leaks (fortunately it is just the 365 that drips).  I plan on
> hiring a floor guy to do the new garage later this year as I intend to get
> two additional four post lifts prior to the 931 coming home after the
> engine is rebuilt.  I've seen the interlocking tiles in place to good
> effect at a friends house.  Your mileage may vary.
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:55 AM Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I'm about to move into a new (well, not brand new) house with a 20'x31'
>> oversized 2 car garage. This is finally my first place where I'll have the
>> place to store my toys and have room to work on them. Please discuss
>> recommendations for garage floor coatings.
>> 
>> I'm leaning towards epoxy because while I could do tiles, the cars WILL
>> leak (1985 Ferrari and 1939 Rolls-Royce are NOT oil tight, in fact the
>> Bijur system on the Rolls is designed to "leak"). I imagine the tiles will
>> leak through and "someday" that entire mess will still be on the concrete
>> beneath.
>> 
>> I'll probably lean towards having a professional do the prep and
>> application because I want to get this done right the first time.
>> 
>> Thoughts? References? I do know how to Google, so I'm really just looking
>> for your personal recommendations.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -matt
>> '85 308
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> Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 14:11:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
> To: Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Garage Floor Solutions
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> When I moved to the new house, I went with an epoxy too.? I can't recommend 
> highly enough the customer service staff or the product at Ucoat-It.? 
> 
> Prep, prep, prep... it's the key to a good installation.?? Do it before you 
> move in so you can take your time and not worry about moving your stuff in, 
> out or around while you are in process.
> 
> The big issue with moving into a garage already done is whether or not they 
> used a traditional concrete sealer when they put the concrete down.?? If it's 
> been sealed, the sealer has to ground off before the epoxy goes down.? Don't 
> listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.? I've seen the results if you 
> don't.? You could peel the epoxy off their floor in sheets big enough to wrap 
> Christmas presents.? Any good rental shop should have the grinder for doing 
> this.?? Get the biggest machine they have...? the job will go much 
> smoother.?? Voice of experience*** - Hopefully, you have a kid, nephew or 
> neighbor who is over 250 lbs. who can come stand on the grinder while you 
> move it around.? Makes the job much easier/faster.? A small hand grinder will 
> quickly take care of the edges.
> 
> I did over 2000 Sq ft and have only had to repair one small spot (3" circle) 
> where it lifted in "my garage".?? "Her garage", 600+ Sq ft, has all kinds of 
> spots lifting... sorta.? The original house garage was over 30 years old.? 
> The epoxy is not lifting but the concrete is separating.? As Erik mentioned 
> about hot tires, they will pull.? In my case when the paint is coming up, 
> it's bringing a thin patch of concrete with it.? Just old, not good 
> concrete.? I can't blame the product for this issue. ? I repair those spots 
> regularly and haven't had any repeat offenders.
> I've had two buddies put down Race Deck in the last 5 years...? neither 
> lasted more than a couple years before they pulled it up and went with 
> epoxy.?? I asked why and just got angry stares.
> 
> 
>    On Wednesday, May 29, 2019, 5:55:57 AM PDT, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver 
> [at] gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> All,
> I'm about to move into a new (well, not brand new) house with a 20'x31' 
> oversized 2 car garage. This is finally my first place where I'll have the 
> place to store my toys and have room to work on them. Please discuss 
> recommendations for garage floor coatings.
> I'm leaning towards epoxy because while I could do tiles, the cars WILL leak 
> (1985 Ferrari and 1939 Rolls-Royce are NOT oil tight, in fact the Bijur 
> system on the Rolls is designed to "leak"). I imagine the tiles will leak 
> through and "someday" that entire mess will still be on the concrete beneath.
> I'll probably lean towards having a professional do the prep and application 
> because I want to get this done right the first time.
> Thoughts? References? I do know how to Google, so I'm really just looking for 
> your personal recommendations.
> Thanks-matt'85 
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