Ferrari Mailing List: Re: How or where to buy a used Ferrari

[Hans E. Hansen (FList]

Seems this thread diverged a bit, but going back to the original,
bought a couple of cars that were not new:

1.  308GT4 - on consignment.  Got a PPI from a very, very highly
recommended mechanic.  He took the car home overnight, did compression
(hey, it's a older car....), and a bunch of tests.  40 miles of
highway and stop and go city traffic.  Called with the results.  Now,
this guy is Italian, has an accent.  Said "It's a gooda car".  I said
"It's cheese?"

Ended up being a terrific car.  Ran really well, after a bit of
tuning, it pulled 225 *wheel* HP, which I thought was outstanding for
a 2 valve carb car.

2.  Maserati QP - Sport GTS.  Hmmmm.......  Bought from a Maserati
dealer.  Would not recommend them.  Got tons of run-around.  They even
pulled a full credit report on me, which pissed me off because it was
a cash transaction.  Would not give service history, because
supposedly it violated California privacy laws to potentially divulge
prior owners.

But.....  Car got a comprehensive service: rotors and pads, all
filters, new Pirelli PZeros (is that a good thing?), and lots of other
stuff.  Charged me for a LoJack system, which I vehemently said I
didn't want.  Turns out they never installed it, and I got a refund
months later.  Whatever.  But it has been a superb car.  Done several
lengthy road trips with zero - as in no, none - problems.  Doing
another 1800 mile trip next week.  Italian Limo!

Hans.

On 6/3/19, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Bought one Ferrari from an authorized dealer, one from a Lamborghini dealer
> one from a private party.  All were properly represented.  Bentley was an
> exotic dealer from CA, price was representative of condition.  Rolls Royce
> was an eBay deal and I was pleasantly surprised.  Mercedes and Porsche were
> bored nights looking at Craigslist.  The latter is where cars with stories
> go to die.
>
> Short list of what I still wouldn't kick out of the garage is an 88.5 TR,
> Continental R or T (would like one of the Le Mans spec cars) and maybe an
> Azure to replace the Panzerwagen.  Will wait for a Clyde type deal, but
> again, I can live with out them, so I'm not going to lose sleep if it
> doesn't happen.
>
> Next step is building a lake house first, there is no more room at the
> inn...
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:18 AM Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For exotics, I've had four iterations:
>>
>> a) Private Seller, with PPI
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>> b) Private Seller, without PPI
>>
>> c) Private Seller, with PPI & paperwork through dealership
>>
>> d) Dealership, sort of without PPI
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>>
>> They all turned out fine, although like Larry I did have a problem
>> letting
>> an out-of-town mechanic who did the PPI then do a major service on (a). I
>> would not do that again. I saved the transport money by letting an
>> out-of-town guy do an overdue major on my TR and then took a Greyhound
>> (yup!) to pick it up and drive it home. Took two extra months and found
>> much later that some parts that were on my bill never made it onto my
>> car.
>> So I would do whatever it takes to get the car home and let your own
>> mechanic do the work so you have easy recourse if it's ever an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> You're always going to find a few details that aren't sorted, or at least
>> aren't sorted to your standard. List wisdom has always been to make sure
>> you have a slush fund saved outside of the purchase price of the car to
>> address those. I don't feel like any of my sellers, private or dealer,
>> intentionally hid something from me. Just that I'm a perfectionist with
>> my
>> cars and not everyone is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Buying is usually harder from a private seller because they have an
>> emotional attachment to the car and to their investment in the car, so
>> getting them to accept the realities of the market can take a while.
>> Dealerships aren't emotionally attached but know all the tricks to
>> squeeze
>> your emotions/wallet on the purchase.
>>
>>
>>
>> On my Aston and my Diablo purchases, I wanted a specific chassis/VIN, so
>> my objectivity was compromised. I may have overpaid a bit, but I got
>> exactly what I wanted with no regrets. On the Ferraris it was easier
>> because "there's always another car out there."
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously I recommend a PPI to anyone. The deals I've made where I
>> skipped
>> it were based on my trust of the seller in one case, and in the
>> dealership
>> service department having recently gone through the car before it was
>> traded in the other.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I think both ways have plusses and minuses and you just need to do
>> your
>> best to let your brain make the decision and not other parts that get
>> involved when staring at a shiny new toy.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- charles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+charles=
>> carolinasound.com [at] ferrarilist.com] *On Behalf Of *Clarence Romero Jr.
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2019 8:05 AM
>> *To:* Charles Perry
>> *Cc:* The FerrariList
>> *Subject:* [Ferrari] How or where to buy a used Ferrari
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok seen having done it both ways (don’t go go there Erik, I am warning
>> you!)
>>
>> I would like to hear from the guys out there
>>
>> Including those who don’t post what was the best experience ?
>>
>> Dealer, independent, private owner, eBay?
>>
>> The 512 I bought from a authorized dealer  car had no squawks was code
>> one
>> other than a windshield that I had them replace
>>
>> The 575 got a deal on it I have some small issues
>>
>> It was an independent dealer I use to work there
>>
>> Seats ( got them to work loose connections)
>>
>> Slightly bent rim( repair when I get back from YUL)
>>
>> Seeping transmission ( nothing serious)
>>
>> Brake cooling ducts( same shit with the TR, cheap Italian paper)
>>
>> Some small window trim issues
>>
>> Those with 550/575 can contact me privately I will tell them where to
>> look
>> it’s very inconspicuous on this, like really stealth
>>
>> And a missing inspection panel left front wheel well, which I can’t find
>> the part # for neither can one of the most experienced parts guys on the
>> planet !
>>
>>
>>
>> So let’s hear from the gallery on which way would you buy your next
>> Ferrari in the future
>>
>> eBay
>>
>> Cars.com
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>> Autotrader
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>>
>> Off to Montreal for the GP
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>>      RF4-4EVR
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>>
>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
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>>
>>
>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>
>>
>>
>> Clyde Romero
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