Yup.
Is he still around? Got to be getting
"up there"
Hans.
On 6/6/19, Peter Rychel <
dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:
> For the GT4 , was it Carlo at Alfa of
Tacoma?
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> From: Ferrari
<ferrari-bounces+dino308gt4=hotmail.com [at] ferrarilist.com> on
>
behalf of Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
> Sent: Wednesday,
June 5, 2019 7:43:52 PM
> To: PeterGT4
> Cc: The
FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] How or where to buy a used
Ferrari
>
> Seems this thread diverged a bit, but going back to
the original,
> bought a couple of cars that were not
new:
>
> 1. 308GT4 - on consignment. Got a PPI from a
very, very highly
> recommended mechanic. He took the car home
overnight, did compression
> (hey, it's a older car....), and a bunch of
tests. 40 miles of
> highway and stop and go city traffic.
Called with the results. Now,
> this guy is Italian, has an
accent. Said "It's a gooda car". I said
> "It's
cheese?"
>
> Ended up being a terrific car. Ran really well,
after a bit of
> tuning, it pulled 225 *wheel* HP, which I thought was
outstanding for
> a 2 valve carb car.
>
> 2. Maserati
QP - Sport GTS. Hmmmm....... Bought from a Maserati
>
dealer. Would not recommend them. Got tons of run-around.
They even
> pulled a full credit report on me, which pissed me off
because it was
> a cash transaction. Would not give service
history, because
> supposedly it violated California privacy laws to
potentially divulge
> prior owners.
>
> But..... Car
got a comprehensive service: rotors and pads, all
> filters, new Pirelli
PZeros (is that a good thing?), and lots of other
> stuff. Charged
me for a LoJack system, which I vehemently said I
> didn't want.
Turns out they never installed it, and I got a refund
> months
later. Whatever. But it has been a superb car. Done
several
> lengthy road trips with zero - as in no, none -
problems. Doing
> another 1800 mile trip next week. Italian
Limo!
>
> Hans.
>
> On 6/3/19, Erik Nielsen
<judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bought one Ferrari from an
authorized dealer, one from a Lamborghini
>> dealer
>> one
from a private party. All were properly represented. Bentley was
an
>> exotic dealer from CA, price was representative of
condition. Rolls
>> Royce
>> was an eBay deal and I
was pleasantly surprised. Mercedes and Porsche
>>
were
>> bored nights looking at Craigslist. The latter is where
cars with
>> stories
>> go to die.
>>
>>
Short list of what I still wouldn't kick out of the garage is an 88.5
TR,
>> Continental R or T (would like one of the Le Mans spec cars)
and maybe an
>> Azure to replace the Panzerwagen. Will wait for
a Clyde type deal, but
>> again, I can live with out them, so I'm not
going to lose sleep if it
>> doesn't happen.
>>
>>
Next step is building a lake house first, there is no more room at
the
>> inn...
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:18 AM
Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com>
>>
wrote:
>>
>>> For exotics, I've had four
iterations:
>>>
>>> a) Private Seller, with
PPI
>>>
>>> b) Private Seller, without
PPI
>>>
>>> c) Private Seller, with PPI &
paperwork through dealership
>>>
>>> d) Dealership,
sort of without
PPI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They all
turned out fine, although like Larry I did have a problem
>>>
letting
>>> an out-of-town mechanic who did the PPI then do a
major service on (a).
>>> I
>>> would not do that
again. I saved the transport money by letting an
>>> out-of-town
guy do an overdue major on my TR and then took a Greyhound
>>>
(yup!) to pick it up and drive it home. Took two extra months and
found
>>> much later that some parts that were on my bill never
made it onto my
>>> car.
>>> So I would do whatever it
takes to get the car home and let your own
>>> mechanic do the
work so you have easy recourse if it's ever an
issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're
always going to find a few details that aren't sorted, or at
>>>
least
>>> aren't sorted to your standard. List wisdom has always
been to make sure
>>> you have a slush fund saved outside of the
purchase price of the car to
>>> address those. I don't feel like
any of my sellers, private or dealer,
>>> intentionally hid
something from me. Just that I'm a perfectionist with
>>>
my
>>> cars and not everyone
is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Buying is
usually harder from a private seller because they have an
>>>
emotional attachment to the car and to their investment in the car,
so
>>> getting them to accept the realities of the market can take
a while.
>>> Dealerships aren't emotionally attached but know all
the tricks to
>>> squeeze
>>> your emotions/wallet on
the purchase.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
On my Aston and my Diablo purchases, I wanted a specific chassis/VIN,
so
>>> my objectivity was compromised. I may have overpaid a bit,
but I got
>>> exactly what I wanted with no regrets. On the
Ferraris it was easier
>>> because "there's always another car out
there."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Obviously I recommend a PPI to anyone. The deals I've made where
I
>>> skipped
>>> it were based on my trust of the
seller in one case, and in the
>>> dealership
>>>
service department having recently gone through the car before it
was
>>> traded in the
other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I
think both ways have plusses and minuses and you just need to
do
>>> your
>>> best to let your brain make the
decision and not other parts that get
>>> involved when staring at
a shiny new
toy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
*From:* Ferrari [
mailto:ferrari-bounces+charles=
>>>
carolinasound.com [at] ferrarilist.com] *On Behalf Of *Clarence Romero
Jr.
>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2019 8:05 AM
>>>
*To:* Charles Perry
>>> *Cc:* The FerrariList
>>>
*Subject:* [Ferrari] How or where to buy a used
Ferrari
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok
seen having done it both ways (don’t go go there Erik, I am
warning
>>> you!)
>>>
>>> I would like to
hear from the guys out there
>>>
>>> Including those
who don’t post what was the best experience ?
>>>
>>>
Dealer, independent, private owner, eBay?
>>>
>>> The
512 I bought from a authorized dealer car had no squawks was
code
>>> one
>>> other than a windshield that I had
them replace
>>>
>>> The 575 got a deal on it I have
some small issues
>>>
>>> It was an independent dealer
I use to work there
>>>
>>> Seats ( got them to work
loose connections)
>>>
>>> Slightly bent rim( repair
when I get back from YUL)
>>>
>>> Seeping transmission
( nothing serious)
>>>
>>> Brake cooling ducts( same
shit with the TR, cheap Italian paper)
>>>
>>> Some
small window trim issues
>>>
>>> Those with 550/575
can contact me privately I will tell them where to
>>>
look
>>> it’s very inconspicuous on this, like really
stealth
>>>
>>> And a missing inspection panel left
front wheel well, which I can’t find
>>> the part # for neither
can one of the most experienced parts guys on the
>>> planet
!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So let’s
hear from the gallery on which way would you buy your next
>>>
Ferrari in the future
>>>
>>>
eBay
>>>
>>> Cars.com
>>>
>>>
Autotrader
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Off to Montreal for the
GP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
RF4-4EVR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scars
are Tattoos with better stories
!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have
no enemies, you have no character
!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clyde
Romero
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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