Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari fear and other myths

[Hans E. Hansen (FList]

Actually, never had a sensor problem.  Not a common problem on these
cars, except the batteries wear out after 5-8 years.

But the TPMS modules are a German made POS.  And now they are NLA.
You used to be able to buy them for under $80, now NOS - if you can
find one - are typically $800 - $1000.  And they will likely fail. The
same part is used on most Italian cars 2004 - 2011, including Maser,
Alfa, Ferrari 599 and 612, etc. A nearly identical part is used on
BMW, VW, Jag, Aston, and a few others, but there are apparently some
software differences that prevent them from being plug-and-play with
the Italian stuff.  Luckily, mine seems to be OK after doing a reset
with a scan tool every couple of months or so.

Hans.

On 7/9/19, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> TPMS is a common problem among every make of car. Considering what the
> sensor has to go through in it’s life, it’s understandable.
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> That family of motor can trace it’s roots all the way back to the GT4’s
> V-8.
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> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari fear and other myths
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> Re:  Reliability, breakdowns, etc.
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> I suppose the myth stems from peoples' experience with early Fiats,
> etc.  Justified.
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> My 308GT4 never once broke in the 13 years I had it.  Sure, stuff
> needed maintenance, like a water pump that started seeping a bit, and
> a couple of relays that decided to cycle on and off for no reason.
> And the usual belts, brake pads, etc.  Also, a preventative overhaul
> of the fuel system/carbs.  But it always started, never let me down.
> All the repairs were more or less expected.  The A/C worked OK, but it
> leaked freon from around the shaft seal on the compressor requiring an
> annual top-up.  The compressor is a York unit, made under license in
> Italy.  It was crap back when Chrysler used it in the 1960's.
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> Now I'm in a Maserati Quattroporte.  With the exception of having to
> reset error codes on the TPMS module every couple of months, it has
> been absolutely flawless.  Uses the 4.7L variant of the F136 family of
> motors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_F136_engine) that
> include the 4.3L in the F430 and the 4.5L in the 458.  Maserati uses
> (or did ...  now they use a turbo V6 mostly) 4.2L and 4.7L versions.
> When I was in Maranello a few years back, I saw the various versions
> being assembled on the same production line.  Early ones had variator
> issues - as did some F430s - but after 2010 they came up with a
> permanent fix.
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> So, yes, another Italian car that starts, runs, blows cold A/C, and
> has had no issues (except TPMS...) at all.  Oh, ah, well, it seems to
> be an absolute magnet for rock chips.....
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> Hans.
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