Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 157, Issue 30
From: Cody Laird (ecl3me.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 16:57:02 -0700 (PDT)
Odd as I’ve spent a lot of time with someone who claims to be named Clyde. 
Whoever he is, he’s an enjoyable chap. 

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> On Aug 7, 2019, at 7:29 PM, scott saidel <Scott_Saidel [at] hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Welcome Cody.
> 
> There is no cLyDe.
> 
> Scottie
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Cody Laird via Ferrari <ferrari [at] 
>> ferrarilist.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is the main reason I will only lease new vehicles or buy older vehicles 
>> that do not require proprietary stuff or can be retrofitted with off the 
>> shelf and easily available replacements. Now with that said I do own a 
>> couple of Ferrari’s among other cars that may fall into that category in a 
>> few years; an ‘89 Mondial t coupe and ’90 348tb. Queue the Clyde’isms, ha 
>> ha. 
>> 
>> I personally hope that one day the car manufactures are required to provide 
>> free or for a reasonable fee, whatever that may be is subjective, to owners 
>> of the vehicles the proprietary software needed to replicate and/or diagnose 
>> the systems after the components are no longer manufactured. 
>> 
>> In case no one noticed this is my first reply to the list after “listening” 
>> for over a year to the great commentary and banter. Thank you Clyde for 
>> telling me about it. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Cody Laird
>> Atlanta
>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:40:44 +0000
>>> From: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
>>> To: Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net>
>>> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Realistic prices are retuning
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> 
>>> Of course.
>>> 
>>> But ? and that?s a big BUT ? what makes it harder is that Ferrari has 
>>> proprietary codes for all of the body controls, plus other drivetrain stuff 
>>> that?s not covered in the open, emissions-accessible OBD area.
>>> 
>>> While there are still working ECUs out there, they?d have to be ?cracked? 
>>> open and reverse-engineered.
>>> 
>>> It?s still a small market and somebody will have to pay for all of that.
>>> 
>>> There?s only one consumer-grade full scanner available (Leonardo) and it?s 
>>> five figures. Might as well spring a couple more grand and get the genuine 
>>> Ferrari scanner... If you can find one.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully by then, the aftermarket crowd will just come up a plug-and-play 
>>> system that can drive all of that and one can ditch all of the Marelli 
>>> stuff altogether. That?s the route I?d take...
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
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