Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Along time ago - at Symbolic Motor Cars - Ferrari 003

[Douglas Anderson (dnt]

Interestin history - if we could have just been the fly on the wall, eh?

Somewhere I read Ferrari, being good post-war car company, did some, uh,
questionable things to fake the government out.  Like completely rebodying
an old car to look like a new car replete with engine, trans, and rear end .
. . on the old frame!  The ever so honest customer, perhaps from
Switzerland, drives car #12345 across the boarder - the ever so attendant
low paid boarder guards with huge power makes a note in the log book that
#12345 came across the boarder.  A few weeks/months later a new Ferrari
wearing serial number #12345 comes to the boarder - the little people with a
lot of power go over this vehicle closely, see the numbers match going in
and now coming out - dutifully, and loudly, stamp papers OK, OK, & OK and
send them off you go.  Flash forward a few decades and this vehicle
confounds those who want to do right but have a lot of cartoon question
marks floating above their head for a long time.  Most of time some sort of
a compromise comes about and now THIS car goes on with a revised or
discovered clean (?) bill of health.
Ahhhh - if only HG Wells was correct and we could pop back 50, 60, 70 years.
Only race cars have a more dubious history - what race car NEVER replaced
and engine? A transmission?  A frame?  Upgrade the body work? Unless the
vehicle won a notable race and was cocooned immediately after and proof
marks put at every juncture.  Just wondering.
Nevertheless - I like old cars - Viva the Monterey Historics and others.
Onward
Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of
Hans E. Hansen
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 1:41 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Along time ago - at Symbolic Motor Cars - Ferrari 003

Not sure if we are talking about the same model of car, but a guy in
Vancouver WA has #004C.  His father bought it for a pittance in the '60s.
Did a beautiful restoration on it.

Jim Glickenhaus has 002C, but some/many argue that it's not near the car
that 004C is.  Seems in a restoration it "borrowed" quite a few parts from
other cars of the era.

#004C has an interesting engine history.  Apparently the first V12 was used
mostly for dyno testing.  An "ear" where a motor mount attached broke off.
#002C got the 2nd motor built.  But they welded up that broken "ear" and
that motor is in #004C.  The engine numbers support this, as the number on
004C is one behind that in 002C.  The owner of 004C has a vintage photo of
that "dyno" motor with the broken engine mount.

Hans.

On 3/29/20, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> Hello Hans
>
> Picture this - many years ago Ferrari Willi, AKA Ferrari Bubba when he 
> moved to Arkansa - traveld down to see Brian Keegan.  There we saw a 
> restoration in process.  See the attached.  Brian - if you read this - 
> perhaps you could fill in the gang more about this early 
> One-of-the-firsts Ferrari's
>
> Cheers
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:42 AM
>
>
>
> Bubba - remember when we went down to Symbolic's work shop and met 
> with Brian Keegan?  The shop was in the process of restoring the FIRST 
> (?) Ferrari 001.  However, there was a controversy since those silly 
> Italians to beat the tax man over stamped the numbers so the most 
> prominent numbers read 003.  I think there was a C in there someplace.
>
> DOUG
>
> (Who is always open for enlightenment)
>
>
>
>   _____
>
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> Subject: Re: Ride in a Ferrari, (continued)
>
>
>
> Note to all: My latest issue of CAVALLINO Magazine (The Journal of 
> Ferrari
> History) has the 1947 Ferrari 166 Spyder Corsa V-12, one of 8? built, 
> is valued at between $950,000 - $1,250,00 USD. Odd, when the 1962 250 
> GTO Series I (33 built) are valued between $26,000,000-$30,000,000 
> USD! (That's $Million, folks!)
>
> More to follow, but I believe it was imported by Luigi C. of NART fame 
> and owned by Briggs Cunningham early on. Sam Collier was killed in 
> either this car or 005, I'll have to check. Maybe someone out there 
> without my 75 year-old brain with dementia can help this old fool out?
>
> Yer pal, still pluggin' away in East Jesus, Ferrari Bubba
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/16/2011 5:20:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> zavitar1 [at] yahoo.com <mailto:zavitar1 [at] yahoo.com>  writes:
>
>
> http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/ride-along-world-oldest-survivi
> ng-fer
> rari-193652491.html
>
>
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