Ferrari Mailing List: Re: New Type of Fire Extinguisher

[Luke Graves (buyer1]



Petroleum, Oils, and Lubricants.

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From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+buyer1=airmail.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Clarence Romero Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:54 AM
To: Col Luke Graves
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Type of Fire Extinguisher

Yep magnesium fire you put it out by smothering it with a dry 
chemical that forms a hard shell to contain it

Brake fires the same way 

     RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero    

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On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:



POL as in dinosaur goo?

Agree with your fuel/O2/spark statement...  except for Magnesium.  You don't/can't put it out, you just get away.

Fire on-board ship is THE most feared event.

When I was much younger, I had to pleasure of knowing the grand-daughter of Hermann Oberth... yes, that Hermann Oberth.   (Her father and brother along with Grandpa all worked at the same US Rocket firm in Calif)  At family BBQs her brother loved to wait until dark, fire up a few pieces of magnesium and throw them in the pool.  Their violent burning under water caused them to dance around the pool bottom and light up the entire pool in a delightfully eerie way.

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 5:01:10 AM PDT, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Here is my bottom line on fires and I’ve been around a few

Galley fires on airlines, fires in POL ( rick, Luke you tell them what that is ) 

There are indoor fires ( most scary and panic) and out door fires ( less threatening, you can distance your self) 

Quick action means all the difference for the outcome to be positive 

Remember a fire needs oxygen,fuel,ignition remove anyone of those fire goes out.

Keep in mind indoors fumes can over come you quickly and you will be breathing quickly ( hyperventilating)  

If you’re not mentally prepared for a fire you will panic 

Seen it to often 

Talk to anyone aboard a ship about fire and they will tell you. 

https://youtu.be/U6NnfRT_OZA

Watch it 

     RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero    

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On Jun 8, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:



Wow, that’s incredible!

 

Peter

 

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From: Douglas Anderson
Sent: June 8, 2020 9:53 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: [Ferrari] New Type of Fire Extinguisher

 

FIRE?  You want fire scarecrow?

 

Picture this – April 1969 – F5000 Saturday practice, turn seven Riverside International Raceway.  I am on the inside berm taking pictures.  Ron Courtney spins to the inside and noses into the tires. 

 

Since his car has no reverse and is up against the horrid apex tire barriers – he’s smack dab on the blind downhill line.  I rush down and start pushing on his LF tire along with a turn worker on the RF to give him room to turn and continue. 

 

Sam Posey comes out of turn 6 over 100 mph looses his brakes hits the berm and comes down on us bass-ackwards at over 100 . . . . and hits the wheel I was pushing.  Sam flipped upside down and squirmed out of his car – Courtney’s fuel tank was ripped open and Poesy drew the fire along with him.  Courtney was sprayed purple K or something and lived. 

 

I’m the guy in the dark pants.  An accident waiting to happen.

Doug

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of George
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 4:51 AM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] New Type of Fire Extinguisher

 

I am another with real-world experience with fires around cars and agree with Clyde that, while it may *look* like the next great thing, I think these extinguishers are just inviting trouble - for all the reasons he mentioned.  I also believe that, unless you've actually been *IN* the situation, you can't really grasp how the panic strikes you.

 

When our garage fire (which became a full-fledged house fire) happened, I had two dry chemical extinguishers fail on me.  Not because I failed to use them properly, but because they were old.  So here's the lesson - if you're going to stick with dry chem for simplicity (and nothing wrong with that if you're willing to accept the risk of the mess they create), be sure to shake them up once a month or else the dry chem will settle to the bottom.  Then, when you really need it, you get - nothing.  Which is what happened to me.  Just a weak drizzle that fell at my feet.

 

Off on a related tangent here - at the 6 Hour Endure that the Ferrari Challenge series held at Homestead in 2000, one of our 360CH cars caught fire.  The driver - for reasons still a mystery - drove it down pit lane (I guess looking for someone with fire extinguisher - but ignoring all the refueling rigs....) and one of those guys *thought* he was spraying the base of the fire, but was really just washing down the car's under tray with the dry chem.  No one had bothered to educate these guys about the cars on track.  Oy.

 

gp

 

 

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