Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Most civilians who fly don?t do it at night and very few fly in bad weather

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

My boss was an LSO in addition to being an E-2 pilot.  He will tell the story 
of landing planes off of Australia with green water coming over the bow in a 
storm. The deck is what, 80’ above the water?  

Young man’s game. 

> On Nov 5, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> 
> Imagine doing night landings on aircraft carrier in a typhoon . . . . 
> Just thinking of the worst - unless snow storms 
> Wadda you think Clyde - Tell us your worst weather experience
> As a passenger - I didn't like going sideways on an Icey Denver runway in a
> 707
> DOUG
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> Subject: [Ferrari] Most civilians who fly don?t do it at night and very few
> fly in bad weather
> 
> "Most civilians who fly don?t  do it at night and very few fly in bad
> weather"
> 
> Well, not for very long, it's called Natural Selection. NEVER EVER flew in
> the rain. Sunny Saturday pilot only.........
> 
> Regards,
> George
> 
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>   1. Re: See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight (Erik Nielsen)
>   2. Re: See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight
>      (Clarence Romero Jr.)
>   3. Re: See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight (scott saidel)
>   4. Re: See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight (Rick Moseley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 07:39:28 -0600
> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight
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> Gee, maybe they didn?t think through all of the consequences of annexing the
> Sudetenland?  
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:30 AM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
>> 
>> There was that pesky little problem of their supply chain and national
> reserves being bombed on a daily basis...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 05:10, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Again, you?re describing the classic systems engineering problem,
> technology was ahead of the supply chain.
>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Clarence Romero Jr. 
>>> <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
> <mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They had very reliable engines in the war They ran out of fuel and 
>>> resources They pioneered synthetic fuels and lubricants The  single 
>>> engine FW-109 was the fighter until the P-38 showed up with 2 engines!
>>> Their 2 engine JU-88 bomber was as fast as our P-47 and it was a bomber!
>>> And there tanks were diesel run not gas like our were which would 
>>> catch fire and incinerate the crew when hit Get your facts straight!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     RF4-4EVR
>>> 
>>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>> 
>>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>> 
>>> Clyde Romero    
>>> 
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>>>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:54 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com
> <mailto:judge4re [at] gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Technology that cost them the war.  
>>>> 
>>>> Twice.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 2:27 AM, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net
> <mailto:dnt [at] dock.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doubtful BMW reliability?  And to think they got their start with
> aviation engines!
>>>>> Doug
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com
>>>>> <mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Erik Nielsen
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:30 PM
>>>>> To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net <mailto:dnt [at] dock.net>>
>>>>> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight
>>>>> 
>>>>> I gave up on BMW reliability or lack there of with my E36 M3, no 
>>>>> way
> I?m getting anywhere near that thing...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net
> <mailto:buyer1 [at] airmail.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://blog.dupontregistry.com/concept-cars/see-the-kleinvision-f
>>>>>> lying-car-takes-flight/
>>>>>> <https://blog.dupontregistry.com/concept-cars/see-the-kleinvision-
>>>>>> flying-car-takes-flight/> Clyde's maximum about aviation being 
>>>>>> self cleansing comes to mind!!!
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> From: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
> To: scott saidel <scott_saidel [at] hotmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight
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> Your also forget
> Mid air collisions with idiots trying to get to parking spots !
> Also weather related incidents like fog rain and the ever present NIGHT
> FLYING ah yes Ask me or anyone of us who did that on a regular basis NIGHT
> FLYING a much diff that NIGHT DRIVING It?s a recipe for disaster for those
> who think this is just like driving !
> Most civilians who fly don?t do it at night and very few fly in bad weather
> And they are smart And alive I might add Listen I flew steady from April
> 1969 up until my last flight on 23 august 2015 no interruptions other than
> vacation being sick and training What?s that 45 plus years in fighters and
> helicopters and airliners And still to this day I know that I will never fly
> again as a pilot and trust me I still know how to fly And I you think the
> average JOE BAG A DOUGHNUTS is going to buy a flying car and make it out of
> the lot alive, well Your doing mind altering drugs!
> Forget about the insurance premiums and liability claims There isn?t enough
> room to talk about that!
> Those things will be crashing out like roaches in Puerto Rican kitchen,
> everywhere !
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     RF4-4EVR
> 
> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
> 
> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
> 
> Clyde Romero    
> 
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>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 8:32 AM, scott saidel <scott_saidel [at] hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ? All I can think about is what shitty boats the Amphicars were. 
>> 
>> One thing to slowly sink in a lake. 
>> 
>> Personal observation and experience leads to the conclusion that 
>> things
> that try to be too many things - end up being shitty at all of them. 
>> 
>> Is there really room for shitty airplanes?  Like cLyDe said, self
> cleaning.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:41 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Oh, 4 wheels, no ground clearance and a low wing...  gonna be fun in 
>>> a
> crosswind, down wing landing.  More so if the BMW engine lets go. 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 5:30:18 PM PST, Erik Nielsen
> <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I gave up on BMW reliability or lack there of with my E36 M3, no way 
>>> I?m
> getting anywhere near that thing...
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://blog.dupontregistry.com/concept-cars/see-the-kleinvision-flyi
>>> ng-car-takes-flight/ Clyde's maximum about aviation being self 
>>> cleansing comes to mind!!!
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> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 15:25:38 +0000
> From: scott saidel <Scott_Saidel [at] Hotmail.com>
> To: Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight
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> Coffee just came out my nose.
> 
> Thanks and good morning, cLyDe
> 
> Scottie
> 
> On Nov 5, 2020, at 8:46 AM, Clarence Romero Jr.
> <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com<mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Those things will be crashing out like roaches in Puerto Rican kitchen,
> everywhere !
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> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 15:25:46 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
> To: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] See the KleinVision Flying Car Takes Flight
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> 
> It probably doesn't have a tailhook either.
> 
>    On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 5:46:16 AM PST, Clarence Romero Jr.
> <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> Your also forgetMid air collisions with idiots trying to get to parking
> spots !Also weather related incidents like fog rain and the ever present
> NIGHT FLYING ah yes?Ask me or anyone of us who did that on a regular basis
> NIGHT FLYING a much diff that NIGHT DRIVING?It?s a recipe for disaster for
> those who think this is just like driving !Most civilians who fly don?t do
> it at night and very few fly in bad weather?And they are smart?And alive I
> might addListen?I flew steady from April 1969 up until my last flight on 23
> august 2015 no interruptions other than vacation being sick and
> training?What?s that 45 plus years in fighters and helicopters and
> airliners?And still to this day I know that I will never fly again as a
> pilot and trust me I still know how to flyAnd I you think the average JOE
> BAG A DOUGHNUTS is going to buy a flying car and make it out of the lot
> alive, wellYour doing mind altering drugs!Forget about the insurance
> premiums and liability claims?There isn?t enough room to t  alk about
> that!Those things will be crashing out like roaches in Puerto Rican kitchen,
> everywhere !
> 
> 
> 
> ? ? ?RF4-4EVR
> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
> Clyde Romero? ??
> 
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> On Nov 5, 2020, at 8:32 AM, scott saidel <scott_saidel [at] hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ?
> All I can think about is what shitty boats the Amphicars were.?
> One thing to slowly sink in a lake.?
> Personal observation and experience leads to the conclusion that things that
> try to be too many things - end up being shitty at all of them.?
> Is there really room for shitty airplanes? ?Like cLyDe said, self cleaning.
> ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:41 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ?Oh, 4 wheels, no ground clearance and a low wing...? gonna be fun in a
> crosswind, down wing landing.? More so if the BMW engine lets go.
> 
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 5:30:18 PM PST, Erik Nielsen
> <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I gave up on BMW reliability or lack there of with my E36 M3, no way I?m
> getting anywhere near that thing...
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net> wrote:
> 
> https://blog.dupontregistry.com/concept-cars/see-the-kleinvision-flying-car-
> takes-flight/Clyde's maximum about aviation being self cleansing comes to
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