Ferrari Mailing List: Re: The Ferrari 348 is Actually Quite Good (As Long as It's From the Right Y...

[CL (cmlf1]

Hans, I did state most journalist, as there are exceptions to almost everything 
and the names you mentioned are of course beyond qualified. Phil Hill or Innes 
Ireland was not testing the latest Toyota or GM offering as they of course 
participated in more appealing tests and write ups.
Even back in the day many tests were biased depending on what manufacturers 
were advertising.

> On February 8, 2021 at 1:05 PM "Hans E. Hansen" <FList [at] hanshansen.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> "Back in the day" ----  when I subscribed to most of the major car
> magazines, they had some actual trained drivers.  I'm talking early
> -90's and before.  "Dyno" Don Sherman, and Patrick Bedard for example.
> Bedard had raced in a few Indy 500s.  I'd say that should qualify one
> to evaluate cars at high speed.  Road and Track employed a few top
> drivers, but I'm not sure how many of them actually did the road
> tests.  Phil Hill did some.  Oh, wait.  I guess he is "just a
> journalist." As was Paul Frere.  And Innes Ireland.
> 
> As for currently...  I really don't know as I no longer subscribe.
> Perhaps the talent pool has deteriorated.
> 
> Hans.
> 
> On 2/8/21, CL <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net> wrote:
> > Most automotive magazine reviewers are " journalists" not professional
> > drivers or even know how to hold a screwdriver, never mind turn a wrench on
> > a car. You are taking a journalists opinion on vehicle driving dynamics.
> > Look the Doug Demuro and Tyler Hoover. 2 of the biggest YouTube auto
> > reviewers and personalities and neither of them admittedly can change a flat
> > tire. DeMuro is not a trained driver, mechanic, nor engineer, but he is the
> > most watched auto review personality in the US and possibly globally.
> >
> > How do you take a driving review of a vehicle from someone who has the
> > training ad skill of the average driver?
> >
> > How do you take the quality or fit and finish review of someone who has
> > never designed, repaired or assembled a vehicle?
> >
> > Most American magazine auto journalists do not have any special skill or
> > training. I remember even as a kid thinking  after reading an article and
> > review of the Nissan Maxima "hey, they are raving about the new Nissan
> > Maxima like it was the greatest car ever produced" and then realize before
> > the article there is a 4 page advertisement for the car...
> >
> > I always take reviews as entertainment with a grain of salt and not much
> > more.
> >
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >> On February 8, 2021 at 12:20 PM LSJ via Ferrari <ferrari [at] 
> >> ferrarilist.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>     There was a setup problem with that C&D car. There may have been a
> >> driver problem too...
> >>
> >>     A friend was a top level US automotive journalist at the time of 348
> >> intro and he said the car was very good.
> >>
> >>     All of the other period road tests really liked the chassis manners,
> >> especially the Euro magazines who put more emphasis on high speed
> >> manners.
> >>
> >>     Spacers help any car but a "Challenge" style alignment and ride height
> >> setting with proper maintenance always ensured excellent high speed
> >> handling on the 348.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     LSJ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 11:12:26 PM EST, Hans E. Hansen
> >> <flist [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>     I do remember period magazine articles mentioning high speed
> >> instability. Car and Driver had to abort a top speed run for that reason
> >> on an early model. So one of the bulletins had to do with mods to keep the
> >> thing on the road. Included stuff like rear wheel spacers to increase rear
> >> track width, and a host of spring and shock mods. I'm sure Brian and
> >> others will chip in....
> >>
> >>     Hans.
> >>
> >>     On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, 6:58 PM Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com
> >> mailto:tbauco [at] gmail.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>         > >
> >> >             > > > Can someone point me to these service bulletins?  A
> >> > quick search turned up very little.  And what were all these warranty
> >> > claims related to?
> >> > >
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