I just don’t need any more stuff. I don’t covet my neighbor’s crap, so I’m a drag on the consumer GDP number. On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:30 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
Erik is going through a mid-life Calm
On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 12:27:37 PM PST, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
I have one, and it’s the one I wanted. I don’t need another. On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Ha Erik You’d buy a Rolls and you know it! Clyde Romero
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On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
If someone gave me a free $150k, I’m buying a Boston Whaler. Just saying.
I have all of the cars I want. Ready to pass some along to the next enthusiast. On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
You’re on another planet Lash You don’t under estimate the Ferrari Brand Ask anyone if I gave your $150k to buy a car Which one would it be? The answer: Ferrari
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On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
Clyde, many of the new car buyers use social media to make their choices.
Youtube is filled with new car tests and reviews.
The “valet parking” or “getting laid“ decision criteria have been replaced by recommendations from British guys named Harry and Schmee.
The cars and coffee and other social media gatherings are also exposing everyone to all of the different marques.
Not to mention the manufacturer displays at Monterey, Amelia, Goodwood, etc.
There are a lot of amazing supercars out there now.
Aston Martin Jaguar Nissan GTR Bugatti Audi R8 AMG GTR Mclaren Viper Corvette
These new influences and choices are all taking new sales away from Ferrari.
On Mar 4, 2021, at 13:39, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Lash You’ve lost sight of the big picture It’s like women buy expensive hand bags They don’t care And the individuals buying these type of cars don’t care either Have you ever asked someone why they bought a Ferrari Lambo etc? The pat answer is, because they can If you have to worry about maintenance, fuel mileage, insurance you’ve bought the wrong car! Clyde Romero
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On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
Brian, your last paragraph is right on the money.
Performance doesn’t matter as much now because everything is so fast today.
Styling does matter and a lot of exotics are really ugly.
What doesn’t help is that quality on the exotics has fallen while on the regular cars it has improved.
Sticky interior on a $300k car?
And big maintenance bills?
Where’s the Lexus dealer again? On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:42, Brian E. Buxton <BrianBuxton [at] buxtonmotorsports.com> wrote:
I think it comes down to more than what else
performs as well on a track though. If we are talking about new
cars only (not the vast used market) then you are in a rarefied
group of people who can spend $245,000 base MSRP for an "entry
level" model - currently the Ferrari Portofino. Yes a C8
Corvette will outperform it in every category for $80,000 new,
doesn't' have insurance maintenance costs, cheap to insure, easy
to drive to dinner or to run errands and not worry about parking
it etc., BUT it's got the Corvette "stigma," the build quality
and material quality is not on the same level, etc. Ford
Mustang GT500's have killer performance for $85,000, but they
are Fords and they have cheap plastic-ky interiors still in
2021. There are quite a few trucks out there for $90-100,000
(Ford F250/350/450 Platinum and the GM counterparts, Ford
Raptors, RAM TRX etc). But your truck, GT500, Corvette buyer
isn't going to be looking at one of those or a new (or even
used) Ferrari. Same with SUV's, is a Lamborghini Urus at
$218,000 base MSRP a better off road, more comfortable, better
performing SUV than a $150,000 Mercedes G550 or a $100,000 full
sized Range Rover? No. BUT it's a Lamborghini. And you'll see
a whole lot less Urus on the road and in valet than any of the
others. And to some in that price range that's what matters.
For the same amount of money ($15,000 - $30,000) you can buy a
W221 Mercedes S550 or a Maserati ... the S550 is a far superior
car in pretty much every way, BUT you see a lot of them on the
road and they don't have that "Maserati" name / brand
recognition and look. The Ferrari V8 does sound pretty good in
the Maserati though and they do have pretty interiors. People
do tend to be afraid of the maintenance costs though. But there
isn't a much better deal on the market, as far as depreciation
and what you get for your money, as a lightly used Maserati or
Aston Martin.
But I don't think performance is as much of a
motivating factor in high end cars as it used to be. Used you
get into a different conversation, as there are a LOT of choices
out there for $50-60K.
--
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Reditus Property Holdings LLC
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On 3/4/21 6:18 AM, Jashburne via
Ferrari wrote:
I think Deep is on to something. There are a lot of high
performance cars available and not all of them are exotics like
Ferrari.
While Ferrari’s road cars performance is higher than most
others, many other brands offer performance that far exceeds
what can be used in public roads. Do many enthusiasts really
appreciate and value the performance difference of Ferrari when
others may be relatively lower but are still a multiple of what
can be used safely on the road?
So far the stock price hasn’t suffered at all but for how
long?
Not to mention the myriad of high
performance cars available in the market...
That and their lacklustre
performance in F1.
Peter
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Could their arrogance finally
have caught up with them?
https://www.motor1.com/news/491772/ferrari-fallen-popularity-within-decade/
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