Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari 308 now Gary’s 308/

[Hans E. Hansen (FList]

Likely the opposite. Took the TP out of the car, used it in the restroom. 

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 11:59 AM Jashburne via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

How were you able to source them during the Great COVID TP Shortage of 2020?

John

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> On Mar 14, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>
> Picture this - mid-eighties - Willow Springs race track - high desert adjacent to Edwards AFB in Rosemond.  It's 7:00 a.m. and some of the FCA/FOC are up and about for the DE.  First cars out about 9:00.  Newish TR starts up cold cold cold.  Revs up - hell, it's race weekend, and BLAMO.  Rust proofing done - no additional charge. 
> Doug
>
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> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Hans E. Hansen
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:14 AM
> To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari 308 now Gary’s 308/
>
> The filters used on the 308 are rather generic in fitment, also used on old Ford pickups and some industrial engines.  Back i the day when the UFI fiasco was going on, I researched this a bit.  If you look long enough, you can find maximum pressure ratings for filters, and the Baldwin is among the highest.  Several competing brands have pressure ratings that are not too far from the cold pressure that a
> 308 can generate, leaving little safety margin.  AC/Delco actually makes a filter with the same specs,  (pressure rating, anti drain back, etc.) but it's very hard to find.  I special ordered a few, but not sure why, as the Baldwins are more readily available. Note that many of the regular, generic filters that will fit don't have the anti drain back.  Which gives you zero oil pressure for several seconds as it fills on every cold start.....
>
> Hans.
>
>> On 3/13/21, Robert Garven <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> They are the only filter to use in a Ferrari, that you can get one
>> that fits. Long time listers remember the UFI oil rubber gasket
>> blowout drama.  I still have one of those 25 year old 150$ I pulled
>> from my inventory when they were blowing off and have it on display at
>> my house! I also bought one of these Chinetti ones for $$$$$$ but just
>> for a display!  HA
>>
>> Enzo and old man Baldwin made friends and Baldwin said as long as he
>> owned the company they would make the oil filters for the Ferrari.  I
>> would not use anything else and when I see another on a Ferrari I
>> wince….
>>
>> They are the best made, strongest, least drain back, plus longtime
>> Ferrari history, Peter uses their air filter, I did not know they made
>> one. Pete what is the part number? I never drive my car off road, in
>> the rain, dust, wind etc. and I just had my airbox off and the K&N
>> looks new. I have seen some conflicting reports on their
>> hp/effectiveness but still might swap one out for the $$$ ufi air
>> filter I took out!  HA I want to believe! HAA
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 1:33 PM, BRITT ROTHMAN via Ferrari
>> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any thoughts on Baldwin oil filters?  I still have a few from my 328
>> days I never used....
>>
>> BR in Stockholm
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On 13 Mar 2021, at 20:54, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> This is correct from research I did several years ago.  I take a hard
>>> pass on K&N air filters.  At the time I was digging, the AC Delco air
>>> filters seemed to perform best.  Decent air flow when new, good
>>> filtration and less of a drop in flow as they got dirty.
>>>
>>> Oil filters are a different story and are constantly evolving.  Mobil
>>> 1, Bosch Extended Performance and Royal Purple are all pretty good
>>> with RP probably being the best.
>>>
>>> For oils I have long been a big fan of Redline.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 8:21 AM CL <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net
>>> <mailto:cmlf1 [at] optonline.net>> wrote:
>>> I recall in testing I was involved in on BMW M30 6 cylinder engines
>>> the K&N drop is filters were awful in every respect. They had a
>>> fraction of the surface area of the MANN or other OEM equivalent and
>>> once they got  a bit dirty restricted airflow to the point where the
>>> engine would stumble on part throttle acceleration. They were great
>>> when clean as far as airflow but the reduced area made the
>>> inefficient once they got slightly dirty and on a street engine, I
>>> would rather have the filtration over a few CFM of airflow and have to clean the filter every month.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>> On March 7, 2021 at 10:32 PM Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com
>>>> <mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know.. I standardized on the Fram paper pleated filters and
>>>> gave up on the k&n filters after that test...
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net <mailto:dnt [at] dock.net>>
>>>> Date: 3/7/21 7:44 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>>> To: '308 Misc' <misc [at] 308systems.com <mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>>
>>>> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>>>> <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
>>>> Subject: Ferrari 308 now Gary’s 308/
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm
>>>>
>>>> Had to read this twice – how could an oil filter make a HP difference?
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh – K&N “air” and oiled air filter.  OK
>>>>
>>>> Do you think it caught more dirt?  Make the engine last longer?
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering . . .
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com
>>>> <mailto:dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com>> On Behalf Of 308 Misc
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 3:04 PM
>>>> To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net <mailto:dnt [at] dock.net>>
>>>> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>>>> <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari 308 now Garys 308/ "Cirith
>>>> Ungol"/512S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I had my 85 with factory exhaust on a dyno in the late 90s the
>>>> RWHP was around 190.  FYI - I was testing out KN oil air filters vs
>>>> Fram paper filters and found KN decreased HP by approximately 5hp…..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Lueker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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