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From: Rick Moseley (ramosel pacbell.net)
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| Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 09:32:44 -0700 (PDT) | |
On Oct 13, 2021, at 9:41 PM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
For some of us it is See-think-think-think-think-do (if it isn't too late). The world needs all types. If everyone was a fighter pilot, who would clean out the arteries of the fighter pilots when they are 70, after decades of eating too much red meat._________________________________________________________________On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 9:32 PM Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:_________________________________________________________________Rick and Anthony both noted “. . . .perhaps half are under trained for the unexpected.”
Reactions to life threatening situations have to be non-thinking. First time I heard a few pearls of wisdom like that was from a few Indy racers – 1) never right at Indy; and, 2) “spinal cord reaction”.
Example – watch a baby try to eat their first bowl of ice cream. Spoon in the ice cream, up to the mouth – hit forehead – hit chin – hit nose – mouth. Ahhh. Second bite – hit chin, cheek, nose, mouth. Third or many more . . . . from ice cream in dish to mouth.
“See – think – do” is replaced with “see – do.”
And that’s what practice practice practice is to accomplish.
Onward
Doug
From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Rick Moseley
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 5:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] From Fox News - San Diego plane crash: At least 2 dead, including cardiologist
Your last 4 words are precisely what we have been saying about flying.
I don't know I'd say half are below average... perhaps half are under trained for the unexpected.
But when you go into combat as a pilot, you better know you are the best... else there is no reason to go up. You're just wasting tax payer dollars.
On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 05:39:25 PM PDT, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
That seems to be the most common guess out there. Any chance the guy had a medical issue? The sad thing is that he was well known as a very good doctor who probably saved many lives. He was also supposedly at least a decent pilot. Not everyone can be the best. Half of the people who fly are below average pilots. But it doesn't sound like he was even in that category. The videos are brutal.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 7:42 PM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
Only if it's training... ;-)
Looks like the engines were ok.
But, he was disoriented and not seeing or believing his gauges.
This is pilot error. sadly.
here's some more info:
And my almost neighbor, Juan Browne (Former C-141Co-pilot with Mikey, discussed previously)
On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 04:02:58 PM PDT, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
"You cant tell doctors a damn thing they know everything."
You mean, like pilots?
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 3:58 PM clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
If you look at the video of the crash he was airborne for quite a while and had sufficient altitude to recover if he knew what to do
Most likely never practiced an engine failure at takeoff
He basically flew the airplane to the scene of the crash with power
You cant tell doctors a damn thing they know everything
From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] From Fox News - San Diego plane crash: At least 2 dead, including cardiologist
It's the plight of many GA pilots...
Get a plane, have fun, go places
Get a bigger plane, multi engine, take more people with you, go faster
One engine failure, asymmetric thrust
Don't know how to correct yaw and lift changes in asymmetric condition
First to the scene of the crash.
It was a real problem with the Turkey (more so than Clyde's Rhino) because the engines were so far apart. But, so were the HUGE Vertical tails... for that reason. Center hull carried the Phoenix, so worth the trade-off.
Can't image what it was like for the SR-71 guys.
Engines much further apart, and one goes from sucking hundreds of thousands of cubic feet of air to brick wall in an instant.
And someday, some day... Erik is really going to explain an "unstart" to me.
OK, I know WHAT it is, I still don't fully understand how an "unstart" happens.
On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:47:19 AM PDT, clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
There is video of the plane in the air and banking hard left into the ground
He was flying
From: Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] From Fox News - San Diego plane crash: At least 2 dead, including cardiologist
I am pretty sure he wasn't airborne or flying anymore when he crashed.
Do we know he had an engine failure?
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 12:05 PM Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Pretty much
It was a 2 engine airplane that could have flown on 1 engine
He was airborne and flying when he crashed
Looks like an engine failure with a wrong rudder recovery to me
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On Oct 13, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
I see. Do we know this was pilot error?
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 11:40 AM Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Aviation ensures that mistakes aren’t repeated. Usually because the offender doesn’t live to do it again.
On Oct 13, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Self cleansing? What does that mean?
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 7:53 AM Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Flying is self cleansing
The pilot was a doctor!
Seen that before
A small plane crashed in a residential neighborhood of San Diego County Monday afternoon, damaging some homes, authorities said. At least two people died and two more have been taken to the hospital.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-plane-crashes-san-diego-residential-area-damaging-homes
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