Re: Test
From: Anthony Bauco (tbaucogmail.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 18:54:03 -0700 (PDT)
I see what you are saying but shouldn't the backup have occured like a year ago? This time last year, things were looking pretty good and people were getting back to work.  That should have eased the backlog.  Yes, we did get the second wave and, with it, maybe another backlog but that eased up a lot in the spring.  Again, the backlog should have eased at that point.  Instead, it just got worse and worse with no easing.  How many people died and what was the economic cost of this disaster?  No one talks about making China pay.  No one talks about making sure national security is addressed by having secure sources for medicine, medical supplies and all those chips we need to build pretty much every piece of defense hardware.  The fact that they have been playing with the Nipah virus is scary as hell.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 9:37 PM LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
Global supply chain disruptions are the reason.

There was no demand for goods when the pandemic started so shipping was cheap. Then, demand for overseas goods shot up as people started buying items during lockdown.

All of a sudden, more ships were needed than ever before...increasing the price of shipping.

More ships, more traffic at the ports...backups began.

Pandemic lockdowns reduced the number of workers to process the ships as the entered the port. Backups intensify...shipping is now even more expensive because there are even less ships that are not waiting.

Also, the ships got larger...like the one stuck sideways in Africa which take even longer to process.

Instant mess...

Cutting off trade to China is easy to say but not easy to do from an economic standpoint.

LSJ



On Friday, October 22, 2021, 09:16:44 PM EDT, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:


That is interesting.  Perhaps we are starting to alienate China.  Have you guys seen the recent research results regarding Covid-19 and the Nipah virus?  If there isn't a good explanation, one could consider this pandemic an act of war.  At the very least, it is a damn good reason for the world to completely close all trade and travel to and from China.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021, 8:39 PM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
Why?   don't know.

I have a lady friend who lives up in Seattle and is very involved in the shipping industry.   She says right now, regardless of the weights and tariffs,  40ft Conex going from China to anywhere will cost you $20K, before you put a single piece of paper in it.  That same empty box going to China from anywhere is only $2K... if you can find a ship.    Who is establishing these prices?  It's no wonder airlines are using underused aircraft to haul freight out of the Orient.

On Friday, October 22, 2021, 05:02:28 PM PDT, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:


And why is this happening at all?  

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 7:47 PM LSJ via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
Great info Britt.

When do you see the situation improving? Or are there too many moving parts at play to predict that reliably?

LSJ



On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 02:26:35 PM EDT, BRITT ROTHMAN <britt2asa [at] aol.com> wrote:


I think it depends entirely on what way you are shipping and what the rates are on a particular week. Currently getting containers from Mexico to Europe are about 200 percent up. Mexico to China near.y impossible to find a ship . China to Europe about 400 percent up. USA to Europe only about 50 percent up. Totally depends. Just have to check. I don’t ship from Europe out to NA so I don’t know what the changes are. 

Britt

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On 21 Oct 2021, at 19:29, LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:


I have read about the current shipping logistical challenges and it is interesting to hear your experience. How much more expensive was this transport than if it had been done pre-pandemic?

I'm asking as I want to ship a few cars and bikes back from the UK but have been waiting for some of the shipping quotes to come down.

Thanks,

LSJ



On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 09:33:09 AM EDT, BRITT ROTHMAN <britt2asa [at] aol.com> wrote:


All of it. Global shipping is a problem, I work with it daily at work. Effectively the ship arrived 3.5 weeks later than scheduled due to port delays prior to Savannah. This meant we missed the connection from Bremerhaven to Sweden. Buts all is  well, car is safe with me. Maybe I can’t get it through first inspection before winter comes but next Spring I’ll be exercising her in the Swedish woods!

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On 20 Oct 2021, at 14:34, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:


Britt, nice work!

$4500 isn’t bad at all. How much of the four week delay was due to pandemic logistical problems?

On Oct 20, 2021, at 02:35, BRITT ROTHMAN via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:


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Here she is as arrived in Sweden. Shipping costs with in insurance to my door was about 4500.00 USD.


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On 19 Oct 2021, at 22:33, Robert Garven <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:


Britt,

Was it in a box do you have any pictures of the container it was in etc.? Was there any damage?
Can we ask what the price was? (roughly) ha

Rob

On Oct 18, 2021, at 1:25 PM, BRITT ROTHMAN via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

She left 4 weeks late from Savannah, just missed the hurricane, popped into the U.K. and then Bremerhaven. Was transferred to a local freighter and sent to Gothenburg. That took about 4 weeks. Then cleared customs with a massive bill and sent by truck from Gothenburg to my house in North Stockholm. Now waiting on paperwork so I can get it through the import inspection and get plates on her. Doubt that will happen before the snow and salt and grit hits so maybe next May. It’s been a long journey and Clyde was very helpful with all the paperwork that I had to get from him to do the import. Oh, I flew to Atlanta in June to see him and the car and to do the purchase. 

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