Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Twin-Turbocharged 1983 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 22 (Lot #62, 108) | Bring a Trailer

[Rick Moseley (ramosel]

Racing Mantra:

Good, Fast & Cheap… pick 2.  

On Dec 25, 2021, at 10:57, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:



Speed is money, how fast do you want to go?

Or. 

Power, torque, reliability. Pick two. 

On Dec 25, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:



Coyote is a wonderful motor.  But it’s one and done.  The cylinder coatings cannot be replicated in the field.  One cylinder gets a scratch and you own a big chunk of future beer cans.  

On Dec 25, 2021, at 10:04, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:



If you want to get bang for buck, get a crate Coyote engine. 

Technology has moved on, you can get a Camry with over 300 hp. Nothing like dropping $100k on an old 308 and still having a soccer mom smoke you on a freeway on-ramp. 

On Dec 25, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:



Back in the old days, just one bad tank of gas could take down even the best turbo system.

Plenty of usage factors to keep in mind.

Isn’t it amazing how good a platform the 308 is for forced induction?

Building a normally aspirated hot rod is really low on the $/HP scale.

On Dec 24, 2021, at 22:28, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:



I know of 3 ventilated blocks that had Norwood systems.

All 3 are back on the road today, sans turbos.

Abuse is a relative term, but I'll agree the transaxles will take a bit of punishment, the twill gears... not so much. 

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 11:15 AM Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Transaxle is fine if you don’t abuse it.

No experience with the Koenig setups but the Norwood ones are aging well.

A modern single turbo would be a lighter and less complicated solution with minimal lag.

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