Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 1981 308 GTSi: disaster avoided, but still in need of serious help.

[Peter Rychel (dino308gt4]

Yes, Michael, this is what I was talking about.

 

Like what Rob and Matt Boyd earlier described, they have done this job before and if you remove the lower row of studs, this cover can slide off of the engine. From there, it should not give you any problems to access the rear set of bearings and certainly, the front ones. But if your mechanic still has a problem removing the bearings from the gear shafts, please send them to me and I will get them off.

 

The reason why the outer bearings wear out so badly is they don’t have a dedicated oil supply. The inner bearings do, as there are ports coming off of the main oil gallery to feed them. The outer bearings on this cover just rely on splash lubrication and it isn’t enough.

 

Peter

 

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From: Michel Savard
Sent: May 10, 2022 3:30 AM
To: Peter Rychel; ferrari
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1981 308 GTSi: disaster avoided, but still in need of serious help.

 

This is a picture of the whole thing. The DRIVE GEAR FOR CAMSHAFT AND OIL PUMP #27 on the left (rear of the car) is moving about 1/16” when forcing it with my fingers. The one on the right (front of engine) is very tight.

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

On May 9, 2022, at 11:51 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 

If your mechanic can remove the front cover assembly off of the engine (part # 112473, on TAV 2), you can send that whole piece out to me, and I can remove the stuck cam belt drive gears... If that’s what you mean when you say that your mechanic has no idea how to remove it (that it’s too tight).

 

Instead of taking pictures of the parts catalogue page, go down to the shop and take a picture (or pictures) of the part(s) causing trouble. I am willing to help you with this. It would be great to see you and your car at Mt Tremblant.

 

Peter

 

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From: Michel Savard
Sent: May 9, 2022 3:34 AM
To: Peter Rychel
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1981 308 GTSi: disaster avoided, but still in need of serious help.

 

Excuse my ignorance, but ship what out ? 

Michael Savard

On May 9, 2022, at 12:02 AM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 

More than likely, the bearing, because it has been worn out, has probably spun on the gear drive spindle, causing galling/damage that now it is seized. The only way is to cut it off.

 

Contact me off list and I will provide you my mailing address. Ship it out to me and I will remove it for you. Ship it out to me ASAP and I will remove it ASAP. You can remove that whole front cover off of the engine by removing the lower studs that go through the transaxle case. Rob Garven on the ‘List has done this before with his GT4. From there, those drive assemblies can be removed. Remember, I work in heavy industry and do stuff like this all of the time – and have dealt with stubborn issues just like this!

 

I am going to Mt Tremblant as well, I’m shipping my Mondial out there and I’m spending time before and after the event to visit family and friends in the Ottawa and Montreal areas. We’ll have a mini Ferrarilist reunion while we’re all there.

 

Peter

 

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From: Michel Savard
Sent: May 8, 2022 10:45 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] 1981 308 GTSi: disaster avoided, but still in need of serious help.

 

As I said in my previous email, I asked my mechanic to change the belts. Now he is stuck because of a major problem.

 

O<tav-8.jpeg>nce the belts were out, he noticed the REAR BELT was so worned out, 3/4” of rubber was left on it. I forgot to check how large a new one is. The difference is huge. It was rubbing seriously on the pulley I guess. He touched the 2 “DRIVE GEAR FOR CAMSHAFT AND OIL PUMP” #27 (the one at the back of the engine) on TAV 8 in my parts manual is loose. I’d say it’s moving about less than 1/16”. The one at the front is very tight.

 

He knows/thinks he has to change the BEARING ON BACK COVER #30 TAV 8, but does not know how to do it. Everything is too tight.

 

I don’t want to miss out on the meeting at Mont-Tremblant on july 23rd -27th.

 

Please, please, please help us!

 

Michael Savard