Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 1981 308 GTSi: disaster avoided, but still in need of serious help.

[Grahame Reinthal (grahame]

Hi Rob, The Carnac stones are quite something - 6,000 years old and totally mysterious.

Also, the food in Brittany is fabulous. Have you tried the local far breton? Cheers, Grahame 

On Tue, 10 May 2022, 9:43 pm Robert W. Garven Jr., <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Michael,

 I’ve had this happen on my car and I’ve taken it apart twice I’m in France now with the band playing so I can’t send you any more detailed pictures, but from what I understand the outer bearing fails 90% of the time with the inner one hardly ever fails. Of course  I replaced both of them the Ric Rainbolt way by taking off the bottom sump cover and reaching up in there with a variety of sockets to remove those pick up tube attachments, it wasn’t very hard it just took a while!  On the later cars looks like  including yours the outer bearings are sealed but on the early 308’s they ride in an oil bath and they’re just open bearings. most mechanics replace the outer bearings as a standard procedure Every other belt change .

Rob

Carnac 

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On May 10, 2022, at 12:30, Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca> wrote:

This is a picture of the whole thing. The DRIVE GEAR FOR CAMSHAFT AND OIL PUMP #27 on the left (rear of the car) is moving about 1/16” when forcing it with my fingers. The one on the right (front of engine) is very tight.

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

On May 9, 2022, at 11:51 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

If your mechanic can remove the front cover assembly off of the engine (part # 112473, on TAV 2), you can send that whole piece out to me, and I can remove the stuck cam belt drive gears... If that’s what you mean when you say that your mechanic has no idea how to remove it (that it’s too tight).

 

Instead of taking pictures of the parts catalogue page, go down to the shop and take a picture (or pictures) of the part(s) causing trouble. I am willing to help you with this. It would be great to see you and your car at Mt Tremblant.

 

Peter

 

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From: Michel Savard
Sent: May 9, 2022 3:34 AM
To: Peter Rychel
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1981 308 GTSi: disaster avoided, but still in need of serious help.

 

Excuse my ignorance, but ship what out ? 

Michael Savard

On May 9, 2022, at 12:02 AM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 

More than likely, the bearing, because it has been worn out, has probably spun on the gear drive spindle, causing galling/damage that now it is seized. The only way is to cut it off.

 

Contact me off list and I will provide you my mailing address. Ship it out to me and I will remove it for you. Ship it out to me ASAP and I will remove it ASAP. You can remove that whole front cover off of the engine by removing the lower studs that go through the transaxle case. Rob Garven on the ‘List has done this before with his GT4. From there, those drive assemblies can be removed. Remember, I work in heavy industry and do stuff like this all of the time – and have dealt with stubborn issues just like this!

 

I am going to Mt Tremblant as well, I’m shipping my Mondial out there and I’m spending time before and after the event to visit family and friends in the Ottawa and Montreal areas. We’ll have a mini Ferrarilist reunion while we’re all there.

 

Peter

 

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From: Michel Savard
Sent: May 8, 2022 10:45 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] 1981 308 GTSi: disaster avoided, but still in need of serious help.

 

As I said in my previous email, I asked my mechanic to change the belts. Now he is stuck because of a major problem.

 

O<tav-8.jpeg>nce the belts were out, he noticed the REAR BELT was so worned out, 3/4” of rubber was left on it. I forgot to check how large a new one is. The difference is huge. It was rubbing seriously on the pulley I guess. He touched the 2 “DRIVE GEAR FOR CAMSHAFT AND OIL PUMP” #27 (the one at the back of the engine) on TAV 8 in my parts manual is loose. I’d say it’s moving about less than 1/16”. The one at the front is very tight.

 

He knows/thinks he has to change the BEARING ON BACK COVER #30 TAV 8, but does not know how to do it. Everything is too tight.

 

I don’t want to miss out on the meeting at Mont-Tremblant on july 23rd -27th.

 

Please, please, please help us!

 

Michael Savard

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