Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Help 308 turn signal repair?

[Peter Rychel (dino308gt4]

When in doubt, get a bigger hammer.

 

😊

 

Peter

 

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From: misc
Sent: October 4, 2022 9:02 PM
To: Peter Rychel
Cc: ferrari
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Help 308 turn signal repair?

 

Right now the turn signals don't even work if I'm sitting in the garage and not moving the wheel just moving the stock up and down

 

And my Hail Mary at flooding it with contact cleaner didn't work🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

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-------- Original message --------

From: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>

Date: 10/4/22 9:52 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com>

Cc: ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Help 308 turn signal repair?

 

The way the turn signal switch works is that there is a ring that has a tab to flip the turn signal stalk back to centre. Think of it like a ratchet wrench – you flip the lever and it can tighten a bolt one way and freewheel the other. Same concept. There are spring-loaded toggles that ratchet the signal stalk so that as soon as you turn the steering wheel to go straight again, that tab flips the toggle, which pops the stalk back to centre.

 

One of those parts are either broken, missing, or worn out.

 

What I can do is take pictures of my broken Mondial switch, so you get an idea of how the mechanism works.

 

Peter

 

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From: Michel Savard
Sent: October 4, 2022 2:45 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: ferrari
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Help 308 turn signal repair?

 

That made me think of a problem I have with my 1981 308 GTSi. My left and right signals don’t cancel themselves anymore. The left and right flashers flash as they are meant to do, but I have to turn them off myself. Very small problem I can live with. My mechanic fix my headlights (they wouldn’t stay on by themselves, I had to hold the black arm with my left hand while driving at night) by taking the column apart. I hope he won’t have to do it again to fix THAT new problem.

 

What do you think?

 

Michael Savard 1981 308 GTSi

 

On Oct 4, 2022, at 2:53 PM, Matt Boyd <ferrari308driver [at] gmail.com> wrote:

 

Sounds like my comment here isn't relevant to your problem, but when my signals stop working, I fiddle with the hazard light switch and they start working. I need to take that switch out of the center console someday and see if it is serviceable (or just replace it).

 

-matt

'85 euro 308

 

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 1:47 PM misc <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:

That's a good point Rick! It's always prudent to have a good looking assistant to scratch those itches.

 

 

 

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-------- Original message --------

From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> 

Date: 10/4/22 12:22 AM (GMT-07:00) 

To: misc <misc [at] 308systems.com> 

Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> 

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Help 308 turn signal repair? 

 

Just be very gentle...  the old plastic/phenolic bits are brittle.  I epoxied some cracks and held it by hand until the epoxy setup.   That's always the point your nose starts to itch.

 

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 10:27:31 PM PDT, misc <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:

 

 

Yes the hazard lights come on, and so I think Peter nailed it.. my stalk assembly needs to be disassembled and cleaned

 

 

 

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-------- Original message --------

From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> 

Date: 10/3/22 11:08 PM (GMT-07:00) 

To: Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com> 

Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> 

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Help 308 turn signal repair? 

 

Doug, 

With the standard flasher relay of the period, yes, no flash.

Those had a bimetalic strip that bent when the current of the incandescent bulbs was passed through them.  They heated up, bent, lights went out.  The strip cooled down and snapped back to close the contact... rinse and repeat.   If you change the bulbs out for LEDs, not enough current to heat up that strip, lights come on but never blink.  But, there are flashers that work with the LEDs, so all is not lost.

 

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 09:57:58 PM PDT, Doug Anderson <dnt911 [at] outlook.com> wrote:

 

 

Hmmmm – LED no flash?

good to know

Thanks Rick

 

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Rick Moseley
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 9:53 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Help 308 turn signal repair?

 

Mark, It's probably in the stalk itself... 

I know there is little that can be repaired and nothing new out there, but Verell Boaen had a good write-up on some disassembly and clean up that really helped with mine.  Hopefully someone has that doc or knows where it is.

 

By "get nothing" do you mean the lights come on but don't blink or don't ever come on?

 

Just throwing it out there... The original flasher relays require working light bulbs to work.  The current draw causes the blink.  They won't work with new LED type bulbs, they don't draw enough current.  There are flashers that work with LEDs on a retrofit.

 

Rick

 

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 09:13:48 PM PDT, misc <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:

 

 

Do you guys have any insight into why my turn signals don't work? I replaced the flasher relay and they still don't work.... The fuse is good....

 

I get nothing when I fire it up and move the turn signal stalk up and down.

 

Thanks!

Mark

 

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