Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Classiche certification. (Erik Nielsen)

[George (ygpz4re]

I think Britt makes fair and valid points re: Classiche certs.  This does not, however, excuse Ferrari for turning it into a gluttonous (and ultimately inconsistent) cash grab.

Erik - re: judging....  Boy can I relate.  Since I ditched the F world and moved to the Jag portion of the Brit car world, I've come to agree WRT judging.  A local JCNA guy wanted to bring me on as the next "Chief Judge" for Jag club events.  And then they released the "Judging Guide" for XK-120s (which I have in the garage, so I'm kinda familiar with them).  This "judging guide" is almost an inch thick - and they expect you to judge the car in 15 minutes or less.  Seriously??  No thanks.  I've come to adopt the "Who's Line Is It Anyway?" attitude about judging - "The points don't matter!"

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From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: BRITT ROTHMAN <britt2asa [at] aol.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Classiche certification.

Lots of hokey stuff was always done in period.

For the automotive insiders, Ferrari has always gotten away with selling an
associated collection of parts that really still is in APQP phase 3.
Warranty?  Doesn't matter, they've convinced everyone not to put miles on
them and make them collectables, rather than have everyone actually
understand how underdeveloped and poorly assembled they actually are.

I lost interest in judging in the early 00s when I saw that it really was
just a scam to keep the brokers and the restorations shops in business.

And no, the other guys aren't any better.


On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 7:59 AM BRITT ROTHMAN via Ferrari <
ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

> I can see both points of view. As an owner/ driver I want certain mods to
> the 512tr, Radiators, fuse box, starter wiring mod, ect. BUT if I?m buying
> a car and I don?t know the owner or what?s happened exactly I would much
> rather buy a classiche certified car then a car with unknown mods and
> changes which were done by persons unknown.
> Lots of hokey stuff was done to the V8s and Trs in the mid 90s when values
> were low and cars were cheap. Plus, lots of people have no idea how a car
> is ? suppose? to look or what was ? original?. We all have looked at used
> classic cars and been told ? that?s the way they came from the factory ?
> about some issue?. But we don?t know for certain one way or the other.
> So I see the value, but for me personally I wouldn?t spend the money on
> the more modern cars. The older and rarer the car is then I would want it
> as a buyer. ( like if I was going to buy a Dino, so many changes in
> details, I don?t know what is correct or what is a bodge). So as the price
> goes up, the certificate becomes more important?.
> My thoughts.
> Britt in Stockholm
>