Re: IMSA at Daytona
From: Matt Boyd (ferrari308drivergmail.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 08:03:41 -0800 (PST)
Out of all the report, what I'm curious about is this comment:

"My times were about 15 seconds off what I was running on Forza 6 on the Xbox in the same car, but that’s to be expected when your own butt and fiberglass are on the line with no reset button."

I haven't played a modern day console game in a long, long time (I loved Ferrari 355 Challenge on the DreamCast and that's probably the last game I've played in a similar medium). Are the games (like Forza 6 on the Xbox) so realistic now that if you get a perfect lap on the game and then take the exact same car out and got a perfect lap, you'd expect the times to be identical (or close)?

Just curious.

Thanks for the report!

-matt
85 euro 308

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 6:31 PM Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com> wrote:

I got to go to the race this year with former Lister Dennis Liu, and as always, it was a lot of fun. This year we tried a new thing called Taste of Daytona. To support charities, 15 of the Midway Suites were converted to mini-restaurants and your ticket got you tapas-sized portions of food from local restaurants. It ranged from utterly terrible (“Pigs in a blanket” from Dave & Busters and cold, hard, fried ravioli from Little Italy) to completely amazing (smoked salmon bruschetta from Stonewood Grill and everything from Crabby’s Oceanside (bacon clam chowder, Mahi tacos and shrimp ceviche). Of course all the regular fair food was available in the infield, and no shortage of sideshows from camping spectators.

 

It was much warmer than last time I went 3 years ago, which made walking to all of the various outlooks nicer. I was surprised that the best sounding cars on the track were the Lamborghini Huracans. Magazines compliment the sound of the street cars, but the race cars were even better unmuffled. Next best were the Corvette C8R cars featuring the flat-plane crank motor that shares 70% of its parts with the street Z06 version. The Aston Martins were a distant third. Surprisingly, all of the GTP and LMP cars sounded terrible – like someone shooting fireworks into a clothes dryer.

 

There did seem to be a lot less attrition this year, and fewer on-track incidents. The LMP2 class was the coolest finish with a last second pass that resulted in a margin of victory of .016 seconds for James Allen in an Oreca. That’s mind-blowing that a 24-hour race can come down to less than two hundredths of a second. I was also amazed that this is the first major sports-car race I’ve ever seen where there was not a Porsche on the podium in ANY class.

 

Saturday before the race we went down to Ferrari of Central Florida to look around. Pretty incredible inventory, including 3 LaFerraris, an Enzo, two F40s, two 288GTOs and two SP1s. Also a number of SF90s and a few 296GTBs. I liked the SF90 much better in person than in photographs, but the 296 was not better in person. I just can’t like that car. Performance aside, it looks so derivative and plain. For less money, I think I’d like a Maserati MC20 Cielo better.

 

Monday the Ferrari Club had rented the track, so I did that event with my C7 Z06. Had a great time. The track isn’t particularly difficult to learn but there are a couple of turns (1 and 5) where I’ve still never found a line that feels right for me. My times were about 15 seconds off what I was running on Forza 6 on the Xbox in the same car, but that’s to be expected when your own butt and fiberglass are on the line with no reset button.  😊 

 

There was a huge variety of cars at the track event, from a Ferrari 330GTC up to a prototype lookalike (which I never identified) and a 333SP-looking car. Other than that, Aston Vantage, McLaren 675LT and 720Ss, several GT3 Porsches and bunch of C8 Corvettes. In my group I could keep pace with 430 Challenge cars with no problem. I got consistently passed (but not lapped) by the prototype car and a Mercedes GT of some variant. That car was crazy quick, which I’m sure is why it’s race sibling won the GTD Pro class for WeatherTech this year. Nice bunch of people and a well-run event. Only pain-point was that the infield only had 98 octane fuel at $12.60 / gallon! My Corvette was burning half a tank per session, so with Dennis and I both running the car in different run groups we went through about $500 in fuel for the day. But so worth it!!

 

Looking forward to going back next year!

 

-- charles

 

 

 

CSC

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+charles=carolinasound.com [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Jeff Kennedy
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 4:22 PM
To: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] IMSA at Daytona

 

I find that a bit harsh with the swipe on WeatherTech.  David MacNeil is an owner of some outstanding vintage Ferrari and a supporter of the Ferrari Club of America.

 

The 296 GT3 cars had Daytona as their first real outing.  I too wish that they had far better in the race.  Were they disadvantaged by the BOP imposed upon them?  Were they just too untested?  Maybe someone knows.  But in the end these are customer cars; not the factory backed teams like many of the other competitors are.

 

Risi did have their car doing well for some periods of time so there was at least some showing of potential.

 

On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 3:09 PM Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Ferrari doesn’t care about a racing event designed to sell floor mats.

Now, $800 sunglasses and they’ll talk.

> On Jan 30, 2023, at 11:42 AM, georgedodson [at] comcast.net wrote:
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> Not such a great showing for Ferrari.
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