| I don’t think anyone will have a choice. Everything is going to batteries like it or not. Somebody will need to start thinking about how to replace battery packs that sre built into the chassis of cars. The cost of the batteries is rapidly coming down but they still wear out due to heat, fast charging, using more than 80% of the gross capacity ect…. Just like your iPhone battery…, nobody is going to throw out a 296 after 10-15 years do something will have to be done to be able to swap in a new battery pack. And seeing that battery technology is changing so quickly, somebody will have to engineer a backwards comparable battery … ( imagine if the total chemical nature of gasoline changed every 8-10 years and your car and all its sensors had to work on this “ new” fuel or you still had to be able to buy the old stuff…… ) I don’t know how it’s going to work out but batteries in cars isn’t going away….. and batteries do wear out….. On 16 Dec 2023, at 16:16, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Waiting for people to figure out that out for the Ferrari hybrids… On Dec 16, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Yep and with the hybrid cars as well Clyde Romero
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On Dec 16, 2023, at 9:27 AM, BRITT ROTHMAN via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
It’s interesting to read as I am very familiar with the cell used in the upgraded packs… I believe they are Samsung cells. Ultimately these cells are a chemical reaction and there are of course variances ( sometime large variances) between batches… I guess the buyer of those car is assuming it’s worth buying the car and factoring fitting a new battery pack eventually… Earlier this year I saw a P1 here in Stockholm which needed a new battery. The original manufacturer went out of business 5 years ago, the custom made replacement was in excess of 400k with installation…. ( it it’s was a lot of installation work…..)… get use to it, batteries do wear out, it’s a chemical reaction, not mechanical amd fast charging and high temps can greatly wear a battery…..
Britt On 15 Dec 2023, at 06:27, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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2010 Tesla Roadster Sport for sale at RM Sotheby's Arizona
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"...Addendum: Please note that this car’s battery is no longer operable and will need to be replaced, at the buyer’s expense, to make
the car roadworthy..."
Okay. But now?:
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Original battery packs can go 15 years, but younger upgraded packs are failing early.
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So someone would spend up to $60K for something that could be essentially useless?
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