Ferrari Mailing List: Re: F1 SPOILER

[LS (lashdeep]

"Which would mean he
wouldn't have been as hard on the engine, so it may not have blown up -
remember, drivers can and often do turn down the wick and go into "cruise"
mode.
"

Understood, maybe it would lasted another 3 laps? It's difficult to
predict wouldn't you say? Maybe they went for too much in qualifying?

Either way, his motor expired.

LS

--- Dennis Liu <BigHeadDennis [at] earthlink.net> wrote:

> Rick, one thing to keep in mind.  And please correct me if I'm wrong,
> since
> I'm sure you know much more about this than me.
> 
> The "blocking" decision was made by the local race stewards - the
> ITALIAN
> race stewards.  Is there a home team advantage?  Quite possibly, or even
> probably.  Let's see - the final race that 7-time World Champion Michael
> Schumacher will ever run at Monza, for Ferrari (which, to Italians,
> means
> more than the Yankees do to New Yorkers x 10), in an almost-dead heat
> for
> both the driver's and constructor's world championships, with no race at
> Imola next year, and what native Italian racing enthusiast WOULDN'T
> decide a
> close decision in Ferrari's favor?
> 
> The thing to keep in mind is that the decisions made by local stewards
> are
> often against the wishes of the FIA itself, and certainly piss off
> Bernie
> and Max from time to time.  IIRC, a recent decision made by the local
> stewards at a race was subsequently overturned by the FIA.
> 
> Now, this is not to say that the FIA wouldn't prefer a close battle to
> the
> end of the season for the two championships, but it's nothing like the
> NASCAR structure, where one body - or more accurately, one family -
> makes
> ALL of the final decisions.  So while "Formula 1" may want to see a
> close
> battle, I don't think this decision can be attributed to that.
> 
> As to my personal opinion as to whether Alonso was blocking, well, it's
> certainly well within the gray area.  He was on an "out" lap, Masa was
> on
> his hot lap.  If the clock wasn't ticking down, Alonso would have gone
> off
> line and allowed Masa by, and rightfully so - any driver on an out lap
> should not be blocking a driver on a hot lap.  Accordingly, when there
> is a
> close call, I think the inference has to go in favor of the impeded
> driver.
> 
> Do I really think Masa was held up?  Nope.  But the rules are the rules,
> and
> he and Ferrari are battling for every point, so he did the rational
> thing
> and made a protest.  I don't know that I would have done it, were I in
> his
> shoes, but I can't blame him for doing it (e.g., teams protesting the
> mass-damper system, dual-brake pedals, various aero bits, etc.; the
> rules is
> da rules).
> 
> And Lashdeep, I gotta disagree with you.  Sure, it's easy to play the
> "well,
> it wouldn't have mattered anyway" game, but keep in mind, had Alonso
> started
> in 5th, he may have found himself in 2nd or third behind MS, rather than
> having to work hard to carve his way through the field.  And since he'd
> only
> be down 1 or 2 points, he may well have settled for that, given the
> margin
> he still would have had and the few remaining races.  Which would mean
> he
> wouldn't have been as hard on the engine, so it may not have blown up -
> remember, drivers can and often do turn down the wick and go into
> "cruise"
> mode.
> 
> Vty,
> 
> --Dennis 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:45 PM
> To: Dennis Liu
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F1 SPOILER
> 
> Isn't that the evidence of a true and dominating world champion? Making
> the
> whole thing look like a joke? Federer sure did the same thing later this
> afternoon.
> 
> I think MS did a great job (not surprising). If Alonso had finished on
> the
> podium, I think the penalty may have weighed in, but a blown engine is a
> blown engine. Maybe he would've blown it earlier as he would've started
> closer to MS (5th instead of 10th) and thought he had an even better
> chance
> of winning.
> 
> LS
> 
> --- Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Warning....
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >      I just wonder how good the race MIGHT have been if Masa and the 
> > Italian race stewards hadn't pulled that "No fair! I was blocked - 
> > even thought the draft cut my sector-iii time." trick.  This was 
> > almost as blatant as Michael's "oops, I didn't do a good turn."  
> > Without interference, the Renault would not have had to push quite as 
> > hard
> > (read: elevated rev limiter settings) and there might just have been a
> 
> > fair fight to the finish.
> >      Yes, I am an F1 marshal and I know it is all show business - but 
> > I'd still like to think there is hope for an element of sport 
> > remaining...  Today did nothing to convince me of that.
> >    
> >   rick
> >   308GTB, SL500, Disco II
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