Ferrari Mailing List: Re: F1 SPOILER

[Dennis Liu (BigHeadDennis]

Yeah, that's my point exactly, Lashdeep - it's too difficult to say, which
is why one shouldn't use the excuse, "it doesn't matter 'cause his engine
blew up anyway!".  

Typically with race motors, if you cut rev usage by a few hundred revs, you
can DOUBLE the life of the motor.  A few laps at the absolute limit of the
motor can cause it to expire in a very short time, while those same laps at
99% can cause the motor to last another race entirely.  If Alonso had been
higher up on the race grid, and managed to get himself behind Schumacher, he
would not need to pass him.  Remember, even if he finishes immediately
behind Schumacher for every race between Monza and Brazil, he still wins the
championship!  Heck, even if he finished third or fourth behind Michael in
1st or 2nd, it's not the end of the world -- much better than blowing up
your engine trying to make it into the points!  Alonso had a great start
yesterday, and he's always really good on starts.  So he could have just hit
"cruise mode", and saved the engine - indeed, he wouldn't even have to be
right on Schumacher's bumper, he would only have to keep challengers from
passing him.

Vty,

--Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:16 AM
To: BigHeadDennis [at] earthlink.net
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] F1 SPOILER

"Which would mean he
wouldn't have been as hard on the engine, so it may not have blown up -
remember, drivers can and often do turn down the wick and go into "cruise"
mode.
"

Understood, maybe it would lasted another 3 laps? It's difficult to predict
wouldn't you say? Maybe they went for too much in qualifying?

Either way, his motor expired.

LS

--- Dennis Liu <BigHeadDennis [at] earthlink.net> wrote:

> Rick, one thing to keep in mind.  And please correct me if I'm wrong, 
> since I'm sure you know much more about this than me.
> 
> The "blocking" decision was made by the local race stewards - the 
> ITALIAN race stewards.  Is there a home team advantage?  Quite 
> possibly, or even probably.  Let's see - the final race that 7-time 
> World Champion Michael Schumacher will ever run at Monza, for Ferrari 
> (which, to Italians, means more than the Yankees do to New Yorkers x 
> 10), in an almost-dead heat for both the driver's and constructor's 
> world championships, with no race at Imola next year, and what native 
> Italian racing enthusiast WOULDN'T decide a close decision in 
> Ferrari's favor?
> 
> The thing to keep in mind is that the decisions made by local stewards 
> are often against the wishes of the FIA itself, and certainly piss off 
> Bernie and Max from time to time.  IIRC, a recent decision made by the 
> local stewards at a race was subsequently overturned by the FIA.
> 
> Now, this is not to say that the FIA wouldn't prefer a close battle to 
> the end of the season for the two championships, but it's nothing like 
> the NASCAR structure, where one body - or more accurately, one family 
> - makes ALL of the final decisions.  So while "Formula 1" may want to 
> see a close battle, I don't think this decision can be attributed to 
> that.
> 
> As to my personal opinion as to whether Alonso was blocking, well, 
> it's certainly well within the gray area.  He was on an "out" lap, 
> Masa was on his hot lap.  If the clock wasn't ticking down, Alonso 
> would have gone off line and allowed Masa by, and rightfully so - any 
> driver on an out lap should not be blocking a driver on a hot lap.  
> Accordingly, when there is a close call, I think the inference has to 
> go in favor of the impeded driver.
> 
> Do I really think Masa was held up?  Nope.  But the rules are the 
> rules, and he and Ferrari are battling for every point, so he did the 
> rational thing and made a protest.  I don't know that I would have 
> done it, were I in his shoes, but I can't blame him for doing it 
> (e.g., teams protesting the mass-damper system, dual-brake pedals, 
> various aero bits, etc.; the rules is da rules).
> 
> And Lashdeep, I gotta disagree with you.  Sure, it's easy to play the 
> "well, it wouldn't have mattered anyway" game, but keep in mind, had 
> Alonso started in 5th, he may have found himself in 2nd or third 
> behind MS, rather than having to work hard to carve his way through 
> the field.  And since he'd only be down 1 or 2 points, he may well 
> have settled for that, given the margin he still would have had and 
> the few remaining races.  Which would mean he wouldn't have been as 
> hard on the engine, so it may not have blown up - remember, drivers 
> can and often do turn down the wick and go into "cruise"
> mode.
> 
> Vty,
> 
> --Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:45 PM
> To: Dennis Liu
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F1 SPOILER
> 
> Isn't that the evidence of a true and dominating world champion? 
> Making the whole thing look like a joke? Federer sure did the same 
> thing later this afternoon.
> 
> I think MS did a great job (not surprising). If Alonso had finished on 
> the podium, I think the penalty may have weighed in, but a blown 
> engine is a blown engine. Maybe he would've blown it earlier as he 
> would've started closer to MS (5th instead of 10th) and thought he had 
> an even better chance of winning.
> 
> LS
> 
> --- Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Warning....
> >    
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> >    
> >    
> >    
> >    
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> >      I just wonder how good the race MIGHT have been if Masa and the 
> > Italian race stewards hadn't pulled that "No fair! I was blocked - 
> > even thought the draft cut my sector-iii time." trick.  This was 
> > almost as blatant as Michael's "oops, I didn't do a good turn."
> > Without interference, the Renault would not have had to push quite 
> > as hard
> > (read: elevated rev limiter settings) and there might just have been 
> > a
> 
> > fair fight to the finish.
> >      Yes, I am an F1 marshal and I know it is all show business - 
> > but I'd still like to think there is hope for an element of sport 
> > remaining...  Today did nothing to convince me of that.
> >    
> >   rick
> >   308GTB, SL500, Disco II
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