Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 12-15 Capacity Mags--Guns etc.

[Dennis Liu (BigHeadDennis]

Dunno if Erik was being ironic or not, but let's take a look at the numbers
- by crime per 100k residents, instead of the actual # of incidents:

                        Huntsville      Memphis NYC             Nat Ave.

Murder:                 3.6             16.1            7               5.5 
Forcible Rape:  56.26   68.04           17.63   32.2 
Robbery:                219.6   577.9           300.9   136.7 
Agg. Assault:   391.4   890.8           361.9   291.1 
Burglary:               1163.9  2240.7  322.2   729.9 
Larceny Theft:  4559.3  4935.4  1530.8  2365.9 
Vehicle Theft:  560.2   1124.7  260.1   421.3 

So, you're way more likely to get killed in Memphis.  You're twice as likely
to get murdered in Huntsville than NYC.

You're more likely to get raped, assaulted, burgled, have stuff stolen and
have your car stolen in either southern city than NYC.  

In fact, Memphis is by far the most crime-ridden of the three (Huntsville is
better, but is worse than NYC except for murder and robbery).

Surprisingly, NYC is below the national average in a lot of categories.


Another way to look at this:  

For "CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: (32 cities)", NYC was ranked the
FOURTH SAFEST city in the country, while Memphis was ranked the FOURTH MOST
DANGEROUS.

This is something of a surprise, and a complete shock to the system for
those of us old enough to remember NYC in the '70s.  Oy, what an
improvement!

Vty,

--Dennis


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Nielsen [mailto:judge4re [at] gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:34 PM
To: Dennis Liu
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 12-15 Capacity Mags--Guns etc.

Let's see, Huntsville versus Memphis:

   Huntsville, AL Memphis, TN Population: 165,311 652,526   Murder: 6
105 Forcible
Rape: 93 444 Robbery: 363 3771 Aggravated Assault: 647 5813 Burglary: 1924
14621 Larceny Theft: 7537 32205 Vehicle Theft: 926 7339

Huntsville versus NYC:

  Huntsville, AL New York, NY Population: 165,311 8,101,321   Murder:
6 570 Forcible
Rape: 93 1428 Robbery: 363 24373 Aggravated Assault: 647 29317 Burglary:
1924 26100 Larceny Theft: 7537 124016 Vehicle Theft: 926 21072

Yep, I think I made the correct geographic decision on where to live based
on 2004 numbers (most recent), and it does look like Memphis is a shithole
(sorry Captain R).




On 9/18/06, JAshburne [at] aol.com <JAshburne [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> After living and working in the New York City area for more than 25 
> years, and especially since Giuliani really cleaned things up, I am 
> always amazed at the stories about crime in some of the mid-sized 
> cities in this  country.
>
> And I really appreciate that New York's reputation is far worse than 
> its reality.  Sure, there are some places that you don't want to find 
> yourself  at the wrong time of night, but NYC is not even in the top 
> 100 cities in the country for crime.  Who would ever guess that?
>
> John
>
> In a message dated 9/18/2006 8:03:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net writes:
>
> Naw this  guy like HEAT and CAMMOS's too much, you know the type MAKE 
> MY  DAY!
>
> clyde
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  red5hilser [at] aol.com [mailto:red5hilser [at] aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 17,  2006 9:57 PM
> To: clyde
> Cc: DROBERTS9 [at] bak.rr.com;  ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com; 
> rcgrunwald [at] linkline.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari]  12-15 Capacity Mags--Guns etc.
>
> Hey M: Move to where? you'll find this  kind of shit going on in every 
> large city in the nation. The police are not  there to protect you 
> from harm.
> Our
> beloved courts have seen to that with  'Probable Cause' and 'Miranda' 
> et al.
> Every now and then we got lucky and  were able to prevent a crime from 
> happening, but 95% of the time we arrived  at the scene after the fact 
> and only wrote a report for the detectives to  follow up on. I have a 
> carry permit and wouldn't leave home without it. 25  miles up the road 
> is Hot Springs, which is full of drugs and crime. It's a  town of 
> 35,000 but is averaging a homicide a week. As I've always said,  
> "Better to judged by 12....than be carried by 6." Get my drift?
>
> Yer  pal, Ferrari Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  MStark [at] Copper.net
> To: red5hilser [at] aol.com
> Cc:  ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Sent: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re:  [Ferrari] 12-15 Capacity Mags--Guns etc.
>
>
> It sounds like you live in  a shit hole.  Why don't you move?
>
> Robert Rehkopf  wrote:
>
> >I understand some people don't like guns. I also understand  some 
> >people
> say
> why
> get yourself into that type of situation where you  need a gun. Just 
> read the
>
> recent story in the Commercial Appeal about a  small town girl in 
> Dumas AR (I
>
> believe) called her mother said she was  on her way home, driving home 
> in the
>
> early evening and ran out of gas.  They found her body a week later. I 
> have two daughters one will not  carry so I bought her a Streamlight 
> flashlight to shine in an attackers  eyes and real mace. The other 
> just turned 21 and she will carry.
>
> >The reason I say this is in my City, everyday there are 60,000  
> >convicted
> felons
> free on the street and another 60,000 people who do  crime for a 
> living, everyday. These times with people on drugs are not  like any 
> days anyone remembers. You venture 100 yards of Beale Street to  your 
> parked car and you're going to be a victim sooner or later.
> >Guns are for 'getaways' not confrontation. As a LE friend said to me  
> >the
> more
> getaway shots you have the better off you are. Also, if your  
> depending on the Police to protect you they really do try, but 
> probably  the only protection you'll get will be for your dead body. 
> In my City,  there are the bump and grab, purposeful minor accidents, 
> everyone stops  to swap insurance information, and you're dead or 
> hurt. I know for some  of us it is hard to think like that but
>
> we're not committing the crime  or doing these awful things. Drug 
> addicts will do ANYTHING for more  drugs, and your life means nothing 
> to them.
> >When your at work, and your  office is invaded, and you're a hostage,
> bound
> gagged and blindfolded ,  and when the police finally arrive, there 
> between your eyes is the  imprint of a 357 barrel, you'll understand 
> you don't have to be anywhere  but at work to have a deadly situation.
> >
> >Robert  Rehkopf
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