Re: [NFC] 2003 BMW M5?
From: Brian E. Buxton (BrianBuxtonBuxtonMotorsports.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
Just the feel ... the way the chassis is set up and responds to the loading nd unloading of torque from shifting. Mercedes - v - dump truck in feel and driving dynamics is apples to oranges. FYI I would never buy manual trans (street) truck either.

Brian


Dave Craig wrote:


Brian,

I am confused by your statement that the car is too heavy for a manual
transmission? How can the car be too heavy for a manual transmission?


I have driven many trucks that have manual transmissions that weigh more
than the cars we are talking about, including a 12000 pound (hauling
capacity) dump truck that was a manual.


Dave Craig


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E. Buxton [mailto:BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:39 AM
To: Dave Craig
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [NFC] 2003 BMW M5?


I may be a wuss, but have you driven one? Mercedes new 5 and 7 speed trannies are *excellent,* and the cars are too heavy for a manual.

Brian


Dennis Liu wrote:




Brian Buxton wrote:





The M5 is a great car ... I am more of a Mercedes-Benz person and




personally would opt for an 03 E55 AMG with 469 hp. & 516 ft.-lb. torque


for


about the same money. But an M5 is a great way to haul 4 people around in
comfort, safety and speed! I think the price seems a bit high for the
mileage, although the warranty is a plus that cannot easily be duplicated


in


the aftermarket ... but for just a few dollars more I can get you about 38K LESS miles! http://www.buxtonmotorsports.com/10.php

====================

Ah, BMW v MB. Another classic battle. My $0.02 - the AMGs are for girls
(and no, I don't mean females, I mean __GIRLS__). Awesome concept, forever
hobbled by that slushbox automatic transmission. I think the most


beautiful


German sedan available now is the CLS, and I'd LOVE to have a CLS55, but
ain't no way - not if I can only get an automatic.

Now, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against automatics per se. It's
just that if I'm buying a sports car, or even a big sedan that's ostensibly
sporty in nature, then I want a damn manual transmission. I love my 740iL
with the auto, and I'm thinking about buying another one (or even a 750).
But I'm not going to get the "M" version with an automatic. I don't even
like the SMG versions. Heck, that's why the current M5 has been on my sh*t
list, because the BMW SMG tranny bites it, big time. And why I've been
waiting and waiting and waiting for my 430, with a manual 6-speed (who


knows


if I'll EVER get one).

Bottom line, the AMG is just plain ridiculous. What's the point of all


that


power and stiff suspension if you can't enjoy driving the dang thing


because


of the slushbox? Might as well get the E500/E550 (or CLS550) and save


$15k.


You'll still have every bit as much fun.

AMG, Brian? You wuss. :-P

Vty,

--Dennis






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