Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Are you too heavy for my stick?

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

Ahhhh, I get it - if you fly planes you be THE car source.
BUT - if you sell cars, ya don't know nuthin about cars.
Damn - I knowed this list was good for something.  heh heh
DOUG



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "clyde" <clyderomero [at] mycingular.blackberry.net>
To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are you too heavy for my stick?


> You guys are missing it
> Brian doesn't know shit
> He sells used cars!
> Come on now guys
>
>
> Clyde
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Hans E. Hansen" <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:26:27
> To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are you too heavy for my stick?
>
> Heavy sedan w/manual (ONLY!!!) > Cadillac CTS/V.
>
> Manual not working in a big car is total and complete
> bullshit.  But the marketing realities are such that this
> combo doesn't appear often.  Sigh.
>
> Hans.
>
> On 9/28/06, Brian E. Buxton <BrianBuxton [at] buxtonmotorsports.com> wrote:
> > Dennis Liu wrote:
> >
> > ><<Brian, you wrote, "the cars are too heavy for a manual".  Dave Craig 
> > >and I took that to mean you were saying that a manual transmission could 
> > >not
> > >handle a car that heavy.  That is clearly not true, because (a) lots of 
> > >manual transmissions are available on heavier vehicles, even luxury 
> > >ones,
> > >and (b) Mercedes itself offers a manual transmission on an equally heavy 
> > >E-class itself.>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Dennis,
> >
> > >I get it now - you guys though I meant that they were literally too 
> > >heavy for a manual, when what I didn't express as well as I should have 
> > >was that the cars are too heavy and don't drive well with a manual.  BMW 
> > >does well with the M5 because (as you pointed out) they do have a 
> > >following.  But BMW has historically tried to be sportier and Mercedes 
> > >more luxurious.  Which is why BMW usually has the younger following 
> > >while MB has the older crowd.  So my point was not to argue that you 
> > >were incorrect in stating that there was no market demand for the cars, 
> > >but rather WHY there was no market demand for the cars.
> > >
> > ><<Ok, so now Brian doesn't mean that, or Dave and I misinterpreted his
> > >statement.  Rather, he meant to say something along the lines of, "heavy
> > >performance sedans perform better with automatic transmissions than with
> > >manual transmissions."  >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> > ><<Well, I don't agree with that either.>>
> > >
> > >What??
> > >
> > ><<But there is still a market for sports sedans that come with manual
> > >transmissions, and BMW is the king of that market.>>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I feel that BMW's best manual is in the M3.  I have been in a couple of
> > different M5's this year and am not at all impressed with the manual 
> > trans.
> >
> > ><<So, why doesn't MB do it?>>
> > >
> > >Because they would not drive well!!!
> > >
> >
> > =)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > ><<Around here, AMGs are driven by eurotrash girls hanging out on Newbury 
> > >street, spending daddy's
> > >money while showing up to class at Boston University every once in 
> > >awhile.
> > >(you know, the kind of girls that Lashdeep likes to date)  <grin>>>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hell, those are the girls I like to date!
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
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