Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Are you too heavy for my stick?

[clyde (clyderomero]

You guys are missing it
Brian doesn't know shit
He sells used cars! 
Come on now guys 


Clyde
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Hans E. Hansen" <FList [at] hanshansen.org>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:26:27 
To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are you too heavy for my stick?

Heavy sedan w/manual (ONLY!!!) > Cadillac CTS/V.

Manual not working in a big car is total and complete
bullshit.  But the marketing realities are such that this
combo doesn't appear often.  Sigh.

Hans.

On 9/28/06, Brian E. Buxton <BrianBuxton [at] buxtonmotorsports.com> wrote:
> Dennis Liu wrote:
>
> ><<Brian, you wrote, "the cars are too heavy for a manual".  Dave Craig and I 
> >took that to mean you were saying that a manual transmission could not
> >handle a car that heavy.  That is clearly not true, because (a) lots of 
> >manual transmissions are available on heavier vehicles, even luxury ones,
> >and (b) Mercedes itself offers a manual transmission on an equally heavy 
> >E-class itself.>>
> >
> >
> >
> Dennis,
>
> >I get it now - you guys though I meant that they were literally too heavy 
> >for a manual, when what I didn't express as well as I should have was that 
> >the cars are too heavy and don't drive well with a manual.  BMW does well 
> >with the M5 because (as you pointed out) they do have a following.  But BMW 
> >has historically tried to be sportier and Mercedes more luxurious.  Which is 
> >why BMW usually has the younger following while MB has the older crowd.  So 
> >my point was not to argue that you were incorrect in stating that there was 
> >no market demand for the cars, but rather WHY there was no market demand for 
> >the cars.
> >
> ><<Ok, so now Brian doesn't mean that, or Dave and I misinterpreted his
> >statement.  Rather, he meant to say something along the lines of, "heavy
> >performance sedans perform better with automatic transmissions than with
> >manual transmissions."  >>
> >
> >
>
> Exactly.
>
> ><<Well, I don't agree with that either.>>
> >
> >What??
> >
> ><<But there is still a market for sports sedans that come with manual
> >transmissions, and BMW is the king of that market.>>
> >
> >
>
> I feel that BMW's best manual is in the M3.  I have been in a couple of
> different M5's this year and am not at all impressed with the manual trans.
>
> ><<So, why doesn't MB do it?>>
> >
> >Because they would not drive well!!!
> >
>
> =)
>
> >
> >
> ><<Around here, AMGs are driven by eurotrash girls hanging out on Newbury 
> >street, spending daddy's
> >money while showing up to class at Boston University every once in awhile.
> >(you know, the kind of girls that Lashdeep likes to date)  <grin>>>
> >
> >
>
> Hell, those are the girls I like to date!
>
> Brian
>
>
>
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